Hello Lee!

16 Jun 18 06:09, you wrote to me:

 LL>>> Were you one of the many Zone 2 sysops who attended EUROCON III?

 KvE>> I was, as far as I remember Michiel was not there.

 LL> From what I understand, the Z2C sanctioned the vote taken
 LL> by Zone 2 sysops concerning the Policy-4 proposal.  In which
 LL> case, there was no need or want by th Z2C to sanction any
 LL> subsequent vote taken by others, such as the little straw poll
 LL> that some sysops in Zone 1 have sought to use as a mandate
 LL> for all sysops worldwide to follow.

 It is a long time ago for my memory. But from the snippet you quoted
 from Fidonews. It is quite shure that Eurocon III was during the haydays,
 of fidonet regulating. In Zone1 the lawer types were taking over from the
 techs and want to incorporate Fidonet into the legal identity IFNA.

 As communications were mainly via POTS lines, Z2 had different problems.
 The tarif structure and the tarifs made echomail distribution very expensive.
 As a result there were some Echamial Czars and cost sharing groups.

 However you looked at it, when there budgets involved, there is usually also
 a budgetholder. I have nenver read P4, but I think, that among other things,
 the policy mandated who or how C's were put in place. That would have meant,
 that outsiders would be in a position, where they could command the
 budgetholders, where and how to spend their budgets.

 The reject for P4 at Fidocon III was a vote by those present, by far a small
 crosssections of Z2 sysops. That is the reject Henk Wevers reported.

 The other poll was probably taken over the net, Z2 sysops that did not know
 about what was decided at Eurocon III, or had issues with the echomail
 Czars probably participated, so Dale is probably right as well.

 KvE>> I had a nice talk with Randy Bush, while I gave him a ride from
 KvE>> Eindhoven to Schiphol (Amsterdam) airport.

 LL> What did he think about Zone 2 sysops having "voted down unanimously"
 LL> the Policy-4 proposal?  Did he make any mention that you recall?

 I cannot remember, he may have been disappointed, and he may have been
 thrilled. I don't remember how much he was involved in the preparations
 for IFNA.

 I was and still am not interested in fidonet politics, so I
 certainly did not talk about it. The things I remember were mainly is story
 about his travels to other countries in his professional life.

Kees

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