Hello mark,

On Monday June 11 2018 13:24, you wrote to me:

 ml>>> is the nodelist not good enough to use if the entry is already
 ml>>> there? maybe they're working on their connections with other
 ml>>> members of the network?

 MV>> I know you like to play devil's advocate,

 ml> not in this case...

So now you are engaging in your other favourite mode Mode Of Operation:
contradict me and argue for the sake of argument.

When I say it is red, you say it is green.
When I say it is green, you say it is blue.
When I say it is blue, you say it is red.

 MV>> but this must have been one of your off days. Surely you can do
 MV>> better than that?

 ml> it was a true and accurate depiction of one scenario that i know has
 ml> been performed in the recent past...

And with that you are changing the subject. You original question was:

 ml>>>>> how can the NC respond to a 9999 number if it is not in the
 ml>>>>> nodelist and their software enforces nodelist lookups?

Now, had I asked that question, surely your answer would have been:

 >>> Use a private nodelist segment with the 9999 entry and the connect
 >>> data for that application.

And then when I would have argued:

 MV>> is the nodelist not good enough to use if the entry is already there?

You would have answered:

 >> No, of course the entry in the nodelist is not good enough. It
 >> does not list any contact info at all, so an override of some
 >> kind is needed anyway for establishing a connection with the
 >> applicants system.

And than I would have responded:

 MV> apparently not if the applicant is polling for a response and is able
 MV> to pick up the mail waiting for them...

And your response:

 >> The nodelist entry can only be used one way becasue it contains no
 >> contact info. The applicant can poll the NC's system. To establish
 >> if the applicant can accept incoming calls, the NC must call the
 >> applicant's system. For that the NCs system needs the contact data and
 >> for that a private nodelist segment for the 9999 entry is needed.

Other than that: Using net/9999 for more than just the initial contacts needed
to complete the application and continue to exchange mail via net/9999 carries
the risk that a second applicant also using net/9999 will pick up the mail
intended for the first one. 

Cheers, Michiel

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