> Cohort,n the tenth part of a Roman legion, a body of about 600 men.
 
 >  NP> Correct. see below
 
 >  Don't tell Bob, he likes to argue a bit more.
 NP> 
 NP> He should get a wife and then we could get some peace :-)
 
ROFL, Dogs are not what they are cracked up to be.
 
 NP> and for the most part these additions appear to have been added for
 NP> political reasons of the time of writing.
 
 > Hmm, That would weaken the position of the writer somewhat.
 > The question is what could John gain by stating Jesus was arrested
 > by
 > a cohort, bit of Roman bashing?
 NP> 
 NP> See the Five Gospels referred to in the previous message.
 
 > What happened to all his supporters?
 
 NP> Pissed off when they looked like getting what he got ???
 
That explains the complaining about desertion afterwards.
 
 >  NP> So you have backing on the cohort definition, but the use of cohort
 >  NP> appears in only one gospel which is the most politicised of them.
 >  NP> Many have argued for many years, but I suspect the _real_ happenings
 >  NP> will never be known in this life at least.
 >  NP> Maybe you just ask him yourself, if you are going in his direction
 >  NP> some time :-)
 
 > Unfortunately I consider myself a pagan right now and he probably
 > won't talk to me.
 NP> 
 NP> According to the Christians, that makes you prime material for him.
 NP> " He came to save the sinners" ......etc
 
My strain of Pagan can't sin as such, there are no personal prohibitions, 
plenty of moral targets though:-)
 
 >  NP> I do agree though, that as an accurate historical document the Bible
 >  NP> is a dismal failure.
 
 > I'm halfheartedly trying to get some info on the alternate and
 > supplementary bits.
  
 NP> I've got the Apochrypha on disk.  (Copyrighted of course)
 NP> These were the books they left out of the bible.
 
Eh? I'm sure they are included in the bible, Oh, I get it, you are
talking about the wrong bible:-)

 > The catholics have some additional books, the Jews a few more still
 > and
 > the dead sea scrolls release a bit more.
 
 NP> I've been waitin on the Dead Sea material!!!
 
Didn't I see a note somewhere it has been released, apart from some
fragments that are still being glued that is?
 
 > For some reason our libraries have very little info on anything but
 > the
 > regular versions, leaving the door open for some more speculative
 > material:-)
 
 NP> Unfortunately.
 NP> Why speculate when there is so much archeological fact to peruse.
 
Indeed, It seems though that some of this speculative material has it's 
roots based in facts.
It is of course quite possible the conclusions drawn from the facts are
incorrect, that John was egging the Romans on for example is a distinct 
possibility.

Neverheless, I feel it has merits to look at some of the material, there 
are too many discrepancies between the simple carpenters son leading an 
esoteric sort of existance like the various churches want to put 
accross and some of the facts.

Jesus came from royal lineage, making all this holy carpentry somewhat 
dubious.

Once doubts are about it is time to examine all these discrepancies and
see if they add up to something other than a religious nut.
 

Cheers, 

Theo


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