David Voth wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 15:02:01 GMT, Bob Crownfield 
> was kind enough to write:
> 
> >Jeff Bishop wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 02:24:46 GMT, Bob Crownfield 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >If there were no bill of rights,
> >> >then you would have no legal basis to claim them as rights.
> >> >If there were no second amendment,
> >> >then there would be no right to carry and bear arms.
> >>
> >> The Ninth Amendment was supposed to keep people from reading the Bill
> >> of Rights that way, but unfortunately, many courts do it anyway.
> >
> >It clearly does, but if a right is not listed somewhere, it is open to
> >argument, hence the Bill of Rights enumerating them.
> 
> The Bill of Rights does not enumerate rights; it proscribes specific
> actions by the government.

What then constitutes a right? 
simply my claiming that I have a right do something?

When can the government pass a law saying I can not, 
for example,have open fires in my back yard?
 
What makes this a right, or not a right?

The county of la can pass a law saying that i can not have open fires in
my back yard, and this contradicts no existing law. the 'right' to have
open fires stopped when the law against them was passed.

When the county of la passes a law saying that i can not carry and bear
arms, then that specifically contradicts the second amendment, and
should be an unconstitutional law.

> 
> Making an exhaustive list of human rights would be impractical.  Read
> Steve Hix's explanation in my .sig.
> 
> --
> The pro-control side clearly believes that U.S. laws are based on the
> "everything is prohibited unless specifically allowed" model, rather
> than the "everything is allowed unless specifically prohibited" model
> that U.S. law actually uses. - Steve Hix in talk.politics.guns

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