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to: Robert Comer
from: Mike `/m`
date: 2005-03-10 17:43:22
subject: Re: Real or bogus

From: Mike '/m' 


Yes.

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:54:01 -0500, "Robert Comer"
 wrote:

>I don't see how it would be a problem, it's a non routable address, so ...
>
>My IP address isn't in my email, do you run your own mail server?
>
>- Bob Comer
>
>
>"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
>news:ekvu21pu6e0r543ii9objs03iq3mra77hk{at}4ax.com...
>>
>> My internal IP address is in every email header I send, and newgroup
>> posting,
>> and....   I don't consider it to be a security problem if it is viewable.
>>
>> /m
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:22:40 -0500, "Robert Comer"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>> It uses a Java applet to determine your local IP address.
No Java, no
>>>> address.
>>>
>>>I have Java, so that's definitely not what it did here.
>>>
>>>> I don't see how exposing a local, but unreachable, IP address is a
>>>> vulnerability. I also don't see any need for Java. Problem solved.
>>>
>>>For the most part it's safe to know the internal IP address, it's only a
>>>problem if someone cracks your gateway, but then your network is his
>>>anyway
>>>if that's the case. 
>>>
>>>As for Java, I use sever things that are Java only, so I don't have a
>>>choice. (nor am I afraid of using it...)
>>>
>>>- Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>>"Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
>>>news:422f20a5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> It uses a Java applet to determine your local IP address.
No Java, no
>>>> address.
>>>>
>>>> The applet posts the local address back to the server, so
now they know
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see how exposing a local, but unreachable, IP address is a
>>>> vulnerability. I also don't see any need for Java. Problem solved.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>> news:422f0de9{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> It doesn't show my internal IP address, it just shows
my router's
>>>>> external IP address.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gregg N" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9614AF6BC6B6gregginvalidinvalid{at}216.144.1.254...
>>>>>> Could someone behind a NAT firewall visit this
site and see if it
>>>>>> reveals
>>>>>> your private (192.168.x.x) IP address? It shows
mine (both IE and FF),
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> I haven't investigated to see if it is actually
revealing a security
>>>>>> vulnerability. I suspect the address is being
generated and displayed
>>>>>> locally by whatever script is running on the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.auditmypc.com/whats-my-ip.asp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gregg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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