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echo: birding
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from: Dave Bugg
date: 2005-01-05 15:10:00
subject: Re: TEFLON Question

legalprocess wrote:

> Okay, Dave. I'm willing to have an open mind. If you can provide
> links to studies where the results are inconclusive or even favorable
> (i.e. not unfavorable) to heating Teflon in the presence of birds and
> other small animals (or at least provide citations to journal
> articles where they appear),

That's funny. No one has said that teflon, or other pfte substances cannot 
EVER cause problems such as illness or death.  The problem comes with taking 
what IS known to extremes. ANY substance is toxic if the exposure levels 
exceed the norm. Teflon, in everyday practice -- including cooking --  
doesn't exceed that norm. And no one seems to mention the fact that pfte 
products, like teflon, have evolved and have become vastly more heat stable 
and durable than those products from even 5 years ago.  Especially in 
cookware products.

I wonder why, given the much higher probabilities involved for injury or 
death, why anyone drives a car with a pet inside. There is too much 
fearmongering and not enough common sense surrounding this whole issue.
I have no worries about teflon in cookware, my computer, or in the next-door 
neighbors ironing-board cover. I've looked at the issue, the text and data 
that has been written, the studies that are referred to, and have zero 
problems with my budgies and parrotlets residing in the room adjacent to my 
kitchen.

> I'll forestall links to how statistics
> work and how research designs might result in varying results
> (especially in the hands of either people who practice "bad" science
> and/or those who know how to manipulate the design to generate
> results favorable to specific expectations/hypotheses).

In my 17 years with public health (I retired last year in order to open up 
my restaurant) I have spent a lot of time dealing with epidemiology, 
scientific research, and have even developed research designs as models to 
capture evaluation data.  But I'm sure the rest of the NG will be profoundly 
(yawn) interested in your version of my penis is larger than yours :-) 
There are already ample threads that can be Googled, if one is really 
interested.

-- 
Dave
Dave's Pit-Smoked Bar-B-Que
http://davebbq.com/
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