->  MK>> Flatlands a white Christmas was a given.  Otherwise it
would have been
->  MK>> an exceptional Christmas which could happen.

->  CH>  It's funny isn't it how there was never any white stuff
->  CH>  where the alledged birth took place? :)

->  Are you sure? Istanbul gets snow. I was snowed on Christmas Eve
->  in San Antonio in 1967.

->  ...

->  CH> And I am told the actual 'xmas' celebration has "pagan"
->  CH> roots; origanally the celebration was to celebarte the
->  CH> winter solstice correct?

->  That's what I heard. The Saturnalia.

->  Recently I've wondered if it wasn't more the Jewish Holiday of
->  Hanukkah being taken over. Or, maybe a two for one. Take both
->  for the price of one.

Isn't there also a "Saturnian day" to be celebrated by debauchery of all
sorts just before Christmas?

I seem to recall reading of something of this sort.
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