Hi Bob,
>Hi Bob (Great name BTW)
Only the most kind and noble get that name  as you know.
>BA> ( a process thing, please add any thoughts )
>Well since you asked...
>BA>                Systems
>BA> Students should be able to demonstrate how a computer system
>BA> operates:
>BA>     1 - using responsible behavior in the handling of
>BA> hardware and software
>BA>     2 - using computer terminology (bit, byte, RAM, ROM,
>BA> monitor, disk drive, cpu, clockspeed, keyboard, mouse, floppy
>BA> drive, cache, harddrive, cdrom drive, hardware, software,
>BA> printer.
>It does not appear to me that either of these objectives match the
>goal of "demonstrate how ..."; it also doesn't appear that #1 has any
>relationship to #2.
  1 refers to the manner in which students will aproach the computer.
  2  teacher said, " Turn on the moniter"
    Student reaches over and flips the little aqua button on the side of
    the bottom of the tv like, picture tube type thing.
    and according to #1 does not use the forhead to do it.
  but perhaps that (2) might be better said Students should be able
  to knowledgeably  discuss:  .. some of them at any rate.
>BA> Students should be able to use Mac, DOS and Windows computer
>BA> environments:
>I agree they should be able to use any OS they encounter, however, is
>this realistic?  Do you have machines with all these OS's available
>ith the expertise to teach them all?  A little refining in
 >erminology is also needed Macintosh vs Mac; MSDOS vs DOS and
 >hatever flavor of windoze you have.  "Windows" is too vague.
     I guess I'm not too sure why. I've used both MSDOS and ibm Dos,
     they seem the same to me as far as the basic commands go, the ver
     might be more pertaining to the utility.I'm very comfortable with
     dos of any flavor as long as the ver is above 2.0, at least that
     I've come across. The commands still work below 2.0 but the files
     aren't transferable. I hate that.
win/95 for the two new pentiums, I'm still learning here,
I'm not sure about the mac (power mac) because I'm thinking about running
WIN/95 on that too. The 486sx 25 will continue to run Win 3.11
(I can use that)
As far as being qualified to teach it, I have to say not in the
certified sence but in the willing to learn sence. The truth is I expect
to learn as much by teaching it as the students, maybe more. I think
that it's important to be able to learn with my students. Of course it
would be far better if I could go to school and take the classes that
will teach me, but there is a money problem. Another problem is the
classes available.
 >A> 1 - using the basic dos commands (copy, format, cd, md
 >A> ect) in the correct syntax  to set up and use a variety of
 >A> software, within the structure of the path .
 >here are the Macintosh and windows requirements for this...
 >hat about software that comes with a "setup" or "install" feature?
  Yes.
 >A> 2 - use filenames and extentions to recognize and create
 >A> executables , texts, pictures, letters , ect
 >xcept for the "off limits" msdos extensions just about anything can
 >e used for an extension after the ".";  Text, picture, letters (just
 >nother text file) and etc have to be called from the executable
 >rogram they were created in.
   True, generally however we come to understand that files with a .bat
   , .com, or  .exe  mean one thing while files with .txt , .doc , .ltr
   mean something different and then there's .gif.... Just so they can
   recognize some of the conventions was my intent.
 >A>  3 - using compression/decompression commands (pkzip ect)
 >A>  to maximize the use of disk space and to access
 >A>  shareware/freeware software.
 > don't see any relationship between using any compression program
 >nd accessing share/freeware unless you are keeping these things on
 >our drives in compressed form and having to decompress them each
 >ime they are used...whew...easier to get a bigger HD and a lot less
 >rustrating..
 and more money tooo
 If you download a new program from a bbs it's often, well, maybe
 allways, that you need to decompress. Compression is important for
 packing your  files onto floppies if you want to.
  >A> Keyboarding
 >HO came up with this term.. )-8
 Ummm, Not me, but I first heard it about 8 years ago.
 >A> Students continue the skill development of typing,
 >A> emphasizing the use of alphabetic and numeric keys with
 >A> increasing speed and accuracy.
 >hat about the other 55+ keys?
 Let them look , I guess. 
  >A> 1 - demonstrate correct technique ( posture, fingering ect )
 >A> 2 - properly use all alphabetic and numeric keys
 >A> 3 - Use correct spacing after punctuation
 >A> 4 - recognize and correct typographical errors
 >3 & #4 do not seem to be _directly_ related to the goal - more LA
 >han computer use related..
   Don't you do that when you type?
 >A> 5 - complete a timed test with typing speed equal to or
 >A> greater than their handwriting speed.
 >ost me on this one...I can type a WHOLE lot faster than I can write
 >omething in long hand with the plus that it is legible ..
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    I expect that will be true for most of the students, but its
   the benchmark ( one anyway) I thought to use so I can tell when these
   sixth graders are ready to use the word processor. As they have had
   keyboarding before, I don't expect to have to spend too much time
   here. (I hope)
   I want to thank you for your most thoughtful post.
   Peace
   Bob
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