Joseph DeMartino wrote:
> On Sep 19, 11:53 pm, Elko T  wrote:
> 
>>    Well, I'm sorry to have to naysay Larry, but it just wouldn't have
>> worked. You can't fake (act) physiological states. No more can running
>> breathlessness be faked, than can a (porn) actress fake orgasm - it
>> always shows.
> 
> You don't get out much, do you Elko?  

   You're right, I'm a prisoner. Posting from Alcatraz by means of a 
hacked satellite connection. :)


> And you've clearly never seen "When Harry Met Sally".

   Funny you should mention that one.   It is one of the most 
over-the-top fake orgasms I've seen. Are you seriously saying that it 
looks genuine to you? But I always enjoyed it, being in a comedy and it 
was supposed to be obviously fake.


> You don't have to run any great distance to get winded, just like you
> don't have to get drunk to play drunk or be up for four days in order
> to play that condition.  There really is such a thing as acting.  You
> can alter your breathing (by all means, job in place just before going
> on stage if it helps), you can slow down your movements, you can do
> all kinds of things . How do you think that a wonderful Method Actor
> like Dustin Hoffman managed to convincingly play a Very Old Man in
> "Little Big Man"?  By actually aging to 100 and something?

   You partly confirm what I wrote. You don't have to run a great 
distance to get winded, but you /have/ to do some exercise for it to be 
convincing - just breathing hard, without needing the air, looks fake. 
Same thing about acting drunk - I've never seen an actor play it 
convincingly. There are subtle changes in motor control that can't be 
faked, but are obvious if you know what to look for. One is the way 
drunks sit down - maybe that's why they don't use many such scenes, but 
mostly standing/swaying ones, which are easier to fake at least 
partially. Same for old age. The scenes in "Deconstruction..." made me 
cringe, but that's in part because the whole episode was cringeworthy 
and my least favorite episode of B5. Can't answer about "Little Big Man" 
because I haven't seen it - an oversight I'll try to rectify asap - 
considering Dustin is one of my favorite actors, but I hadn't even heard 
of that movie until now.

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