0n (26 Jan 06) BOB KLAHN wrote to CINDY HAGLUND...

 CH> 0n (25 Jan 06) BOB KLAHN wrote to CINDY HAGLUND...

 BK>  BK>> ...

 BK>  BK>>  WC>> Or we could just kill *everyone*, that'd work too.

 BK>  CH>>  Nah that's what early Xtians wanted to do; well everybody

 BK>  BK>>  Say what? Where did you get that?

 CH>  Where did I get that? Is it not a well established fact
 CH>  that Christians especially Catholics have always hated
 CH>  Jews because they had been brainwashed into believing the

 BK>  You said "everybody".

 That's right. Everybody. However some of us are less inclined
depending on our nature and nurture. I for one can hate just as well as
anybody but I'd rather not. You see? :)
                            
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 CH>  Jews killed their Messiah? Of course no decent human being
 CH>  who happens to hate somebody or a group of people -
 CH>  actually wants them dead. That would weigh too heavily on
 CH>  their conscience. Hitler simply actualized that
 CH>  subconscious wish.

 BK>  Well, let's see. Christianity was originally centered in Rome.
 BK>  Rome executed Jesus. Jesus was a Jew.

 Nod. But you see for centuries millions of people were led to
believe and hate Jews for this misinfo. The execution may have been
'set up' yes but it was due to a crime for civil disobedience.

The most perplexing thing about Xtianity is that if their messiah was
MEANT to die for their sins, why should they hate anyone for having
carried out the execution. That is very perplexing.

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 BK>  So, Christianity, feeling guilty for centering their religion in
 BK>  the capital of the empire that killed their Jewish founder, went
 BK>  into a self hatred mode, and transferred the guilt to those who
 BK>  remained in the religion of their founder.

 Guilt is a very base and ugly emotion isn't it. Very easy to control
people with guilt that is why guilt is one of the leading power tools
of ANY group aimed at manipulating people. (ie: Advertising.)

I'm not singling any one group out but one other group that is so
famous for using guilt, it's actually amusing as many of the guilt
tricks are seeped in Superstition. :) Catechism and yes orthodox Jews
too. Superstition is a powerful way to lay guilt trips.
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 CH> Where did I get that from? From what others have said
 CH> combined with reading about Hitler and how he came to
 CH> power. If it hadn't been for the well founded Xtian hatred
 CH> of Jews, do you honestly think he would have gotten as far
 CH> as he did? I honestly don't think so.

 BK>  He would have found someone else. Bush isn't aiming at Jews.

 Of course! That's  the whole point. If it weren't one scape goat it
would have been another. My point Bob, is that if Jews were not a
scape goat they wouldn't have been slaugthered en masse. SOme other
group would have instead.

Off to the side here a bit on Hitler. Has anybody figured out how he
rationalized the fact while he sought a Perfect White /Blue Eyed Race
he himself was dark haired and brown eyed? ((And he obviously knew
nothing about Genetics seeing how  white skin/blue eyes are actually
recessive traits. And 'recessive' IE "left handed"- to some folks is
considered 'inferior'. Now if he knew squat about genetics he'd want to
have had a perfect brown haired/brown eyed race! but then ut oh! He'd
have run into problems because most Jews are brown haired/brown eyed.
I wonder how he'd rationalize THAT if he were blond/blue...etc.,

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 BK>  Loyalists in Northern Ireland don't aim at Jews. Muslims in the

 Nod. I'm talking people Bob, not any one group of them. ALL Humans
have the potential to hate. BUT they also have the potential NOT to.
Some just have more of one than the other and seems that the former
(hate) is far more easily adhered to than non-hate. Non-hate requires
communization and thinking. Hate requires avoidance and thus
ignorance. Easy!

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 I'm not aiming at Jews either. This isn't about Jews. It's about
 people. Get it. Human beings.


Cindy

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