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to: Gary Britt
from: Ellen K.
date: 2005-05-05 20:47:48
subject: Re: Growing Word files

From: Ellen K. 

Let's just do ONE thing.   Suppose I want to create a template X, then I
want to base documents on it.  Instructions?

On Thu, 5 May 2005 12:20:50 -0400, "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
:

>If by formatting differently you mean different margins and things like
>that, then insert a non-continuous section break at the beginning and end of
>the page in question.  Then that page can have different margins, etc.
>
>You don't really drop text "into" a template, unless you want
that text to
>be permanently part of the template.  You open a new blank document with
>that particular template "attached" to it.  You can only
attach a different
>template by using the mouse to click File | New and then selecting the
>template you want to base the document upon.  In the file new dialog box you
>have the choice somewhere to make the "new" thing a document with the
>template attached or open the template itself in situations where you want
>to permanently change something about the template.  The default is to open
>the "new" thing as a document with the template attached.
>
>When a template is attached to a document then the formatting styles,
>macros, shortkeys, etc. contained in that template become part of the
>"document" to which it is attached (but changes to the document do NOT
>change the template), and if those styles, macros, etc. have the same names
>but different settings from the styles and macros in your general purpose
>template (file name Normal.dot but listed as "Blank Document"
in the File |
>New dialog box) then the ones in the special purpose template take
>precedence.  You can also check and make changes to what template is
>attached to a document by looking under the Tools menu for something similar
>to "Tools and Add-ins".  That dialog box will show you what template is
>attached to the current document and will even allow you to change the
>template that is attached to that document.
>
>Clear as mud right? 
>
>I preferred word for dos to WordPerfect because I felt word for dos was
>faster and easier to use for almost everything.  However, if you needed to
>do complex mail merges and other heavy macro language things, then
>WordPerfect had a much superior macro language to word for dos.
>
>Gary
>
>
>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>news:63aj71dph9oj5k5bt95vgf7h9klnc05k1f{at}4ax.com...
>> In the DOS days I used WordPerfect.   Gave it up kicking and screaming.
>> The funniest thing is how similar HTML is to the WP "revealed
codes".
>>
>> But now I'm used to Word, although there are still a few things that
>> make me crazy, like the difficulty (for me anyway) of formatting
>> individual pages of a document differently.   I also don't really
>> understand how to use a template, i.e. be able to open a template and
>> drop text into it and then save it as a document.  And will never
>> understand why adding a header or footer has to be done through the
>> "View" menu.   Fortunately I don't need to be a power user.
>>
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 19:35:51 -0400, "Gary Britt"

>> wrote in message :
>>
>> >Word has had the ability to open and I think save RTF format since the
>> >1980's and Word For Dos.  Microsoft promoted it back then as a basis for
>> >document interchange between different programs.  The last few years it
>has
>> >really taken off because of various Web/Email uses of RTF format.
>> >
>> >Gary
>> >(Its hard to believe how long I've been using MS Word.  I still have
>> >functioning copies of both MS Word 5 for Dos and MS Word 6 for Dos on my
>> >computers.  Never really used 6 as I moved to windows finally.  I still
>fire
>> >up Word 5 from time to time to because I had/have a specialized
>> >medical/legal dictionary for Word 5.  So if I encounter a new
>legal/medical
>> >term not in Word 2000 spell checker and my heavily customized custom.dic
>> >file, I paste the word into Word 5, spell check it with the
medical/legal
>> >dictionary and then put the verified correct spelling as an addition to
>my
>> >Word 2000 custom.dic file.)
>> >
>> >"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
>> >news:8nli711bh9silqplhjng86nrlg7pfor8kj{at}4ax.com...
>> >> We don't do any fancy Word formatting.
>> >>
>> >> Still, I wonder why this "feature" is in Word
in the first place.
>> >>
>> >>  /m
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 3 May 2005 17:06:38 -0400, "Gary Britt"

>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I think that confirms what Ellen wrote.  If you open
the document and
>do
>> >> >control-a, control-c and then open a new blank
document and paste into
>it
>> >> >and then do a file save, it should give you the same
savings as via
>the
>> >rtf
>> >> >route, but formatting might be better preserved with
copy and paste.
>RTF
>> >> >doesn't support everything that Word does formatting wise.
>> >> >
>> >> >Gary
>> >> >
>> >> >"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
>> >> >news:3mpf71p6uk8g6oa54a5lf4idsn6aifa888{at}4ax.com...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Save to .rtf seems to help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  /m
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 03 May 2005 13:55:56 -0700, Ellen K.
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I think the "deleted" stuff is
never actually deleted, it's only
>> >tagged
>> >> >> >as such.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Try copy and paste from the old one to a
fresh one and modify that,
>> >> >> >instead of continuing to use the same one
all the time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On Mon, 02 May 2005 20:23:12 -0400, Mike
'/m' 
>wrote
>> >in
>> >> >> >message
:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Two of the Software Engineers who send
me a status report each
>week
>> >have
>> >> >> >>a problem with growing Word files.  
They seem to grow by about
>> >20-30k
>> >> >> >>each week, even though the status report
remains about the same
>> >amount
>> >> >> >>of words.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>The sequence used to write the status
report is to take last
>week's
>> >> >> >>report, modify the text with what is new
and save as a new
>filename.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>I already checked and fast saves are
disabled.  I am not sure
>where
>> >else
>> >> >> >>to look.  One Engineer has Office XP,
the other Office 2003.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Any suggestions on how to control this problem?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> /m
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

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