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Perhaps I'm just customer oriented and remember the days when MS was = too..

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:428a930f{at}w3.nls.net...
     I didn't realize the .NET Framework was a car.  Do you want to =
cover every type of object?

  Rich

    "Geo"  wrote in message
news:428a7028{at}w3.nls.net...
    You know Rich, when you buy a new car the first thing you don't have =
to do is go lookup to see if there were any recalls, all the recall work =
has already been done.

    Geo.
      "Rich"  wrote in message news:428a304e{at}w3.nls.net...
         The initial framework install was optional.  The updates were =
classified critical and would be automatic unless you disabled automatic =
updates and notifications.

      Rich

        "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:428959c0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        I wasn't even addressing the issue of WHY I had to install it, =
just the issues of installing an exploitable version right from =
windowsupdate and getting no warning that it was making me exploitable =
and that I should go back and run a second check and then when that was =
done no warning that I should go back and run a windows update scan for = a
THIRD TIME.

        Why can't they just patch the stupid .NET framework distribution =
so it's current when you install it? Is there some reason for the repeat =
trips to windows update? (should I create my own slipstream install =
Rich?)

        Geo.


          "Rich"  wrote in message news:42894c72{at}w3.nls.net...
             If you don't have applications that use the .NET Framework =
then don't install it.  That's what I suggest to people.  I make the = same
suggestion regarding Java.  Sun's Java download is not just = unnecessary
if you don't have an application to run.  It is unfriendly = enough to
configure itself to always run.

          Rich

            "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:42891e42$1{at}w3.nls.net...
            "Richard B."  wrote in message
            news:hn3i81h4om7tr8ut73datmb4babuodlui3{at}4ax.com...

            > I've had other software require it to be installed, some =
engineering
            > software (Haested) did.

            I've so far avoided anything that required it, I don't see =
why I should have
            to have a less secure system just to make it easier for a =
programmer to
            write a program. I intend to continue to resist anything =
.NET..

            Geo.


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Perhaps I'm just customer oriented and =
remember the=20
days when MS was too..
 
Geo.

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428a930f{at}w3.nls.net...
     I
didn't realize the =
.NET Framework=20
  was a car.  Do you want to cover every type of =
object?
   
  Rich
   
  

    "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
    wrote in message news:428a7028{at}w3.nls.net...
    You know Rich, when you buy a new =
car the first=20
    thing you don't have to do is go lookup to see if there were any =
recalls,=20
    all the recall work has already been done.
     
    Geo.
    

      "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428a304e{at}w3.nls.net...
         The initial =
framework install=20
      was optional.  The updates were classified critical and would =
be=20
      automatic unless you disabled automatic updates and=20
      notifications.
       
      Rich
       
      

        "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
        wrote in message news:428959c0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        I wasn't even addressing the =
issue of WHY I=20
        had to install it, just the issues of installing an exploitable =
version=20
        right from windowsupdate and getting no warning that it was =
making me=20
        exploitable and that I should go back and run a second check and =
then=20
        when that was done no warning that I should go back and run a =
windows=20
        update scan for a THIRD TIME.
         
        Why can't they just patch the =
stupid .NET=20
        framework distribution so it's current when you install it? Is =
there=20
        some reason for the repeat trips to windows update? (should I =
create my=20
        own slipstream install Rich?)
         
        Geo.
         
         
        

          "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42894c72{at}w3.nls.net...
            
If you don't =
have=20
          applications that use the .NET Framework then don't install =
it. =20
          That's what I suggest to people.  I make the same =
suggestion=20
          regarding Java.  Sun's Java download is not just =
unnecessary if=20
          you don't have an application to run.  It =
is unfriendly=20
          enough to configure itself to always run.
           
          Rich
           
          
            "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
=
wrote in=20
            message news:42891e42$1{at}w3.nls.net..."Richard=20
            B." <TDNBW{at}barktopus.com>">mailto:TDNBW{at}barktopus.com">TDNBW{at}barktopus.com>
wrote=20
            in messagenews:hn3i81h4om7=
tr8ut73datmb4babuodlui3{at}4ax.com...>=20
            I've had other software require it to be installed, some=20
            engineering> software (Haested)
did.I've so =
far=20
            avoided anything that required it, I don't see why I should=20
            haveto have a less secure system just to make it easier =
for a=20
            programmer towrite a program. I intend to continue to =
resist=20
            anything=20
    =
.NET..Geo.

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