From: "Robert Comer" 

>   Are you referring to java the language, java the class library, java the
> vm, or something else sun assigns this brand name?<

Java generic.

>   java the language is supported by the .NET Framework along with C++, C#,
> VB, and a host of >others.

I know.

>That sun's java the class library or sun's java the vm isn't well suited
>for other languages reflects >poorly on it not the other languages.

Not really, and actually there's no reason it couldn't as I've seen an RPG
compiler that spit out Java vm bytecode -- just nobody sees a need for
multiple languages in the Java vm.

I don't really count Java (vm) and .NET as competitors, they're designed
for different tasks and both do fairly well what they were designed for.

- Bob Comer


"Rich"  wrote in message news:428e7e0f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
   Are you referring to java the language, java the class library, java the
vm, or something else sun assigns this brand name?

   java the language is supported by the .NET Framework along with C++, C#,
VB, and a host of others.  That sun's java the class library or sun's java
the vm isn't well suited for other languages reflects poorly on it not the
other languages.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:428e48bd{at}w3.nls.net...
  > That's nothing to do with the language and everything to do with the
  > environment.

  Agreed, but Java has the environment and C++ doesn't, and doesn't lend
  itself to that kind of environment either.

  - Bob Comer


  "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
  news:428e4833$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  > That's nothing to do with the language and everything to do with the
  > environment. There's nothing intrinsic about Java that means the JVM is
  > cross-platform, I might choose to use the JVM and therefore end up with
  > Java, but that's a different argument.
  >
  > Paul
  >
  > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
  > news:428de1e8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >> Cross platform.
  >>
  >> - Bob Comer 
  >>
  >> "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
  >> news:428dcdeb{at}w3.nls.net...
  >>> But C++ can do all that. Managed/unmanaged. GC/non-GC, or both in the
  >>> same app.
  >>>
  >>> What is the advantage of Java as a language given there's no obvious
  >>> advantage to it as an environment? I suppose a more flexible 'goto'
  >>> mechanism...
  >>>
  >>> Paul
  >
  >

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