03 Mar 16 09:00, you wrote to me:

 >>>>> However, almost all message editors comply to it, so that's common
 >>>>> practice.
 SH>>>> Maybe if you only include message editors specifically written for
 SH>>>> FidoNet rather than all message editors.
 AV>>> Obviously, yes: all other message editors are out-of-scope here.
 ml>> really? what about all the new *nix based systems that use nano or vi

 AV> They are generic text editors, not message editors.

a rose by any other name is still a rose ;)

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 ml>> which is more important?

 AV> Whether the msged will support UTF-8, would you use it?

definitely not if that ^ASOT/^AEOT garbase is still used in it...

 AV> What if it will be a Linux-only fork?

see above...

 >>>>> Moreover, people with incompliant editors may be banned from some
 >>>>> echoareas.
 SH>>>> Sounds like areas that aren't worth posting in anyway if they'll
 SH>>>> be happy to punish users for decisions their sysops make.
 AV>>> In practice, those users simply move to points.
 ml>> not over here they don't... they never have... they live with the
 AV>          ^^^^^^^^^
 ml>> situation OR they find another BBS OR both... in some cases, they
 ml>> might be able to get their sysop to find a new and better editor
 ml>> for them to use but that won't help at all if the BBS doesn't place
 ml>> the quotes in the temporary message file properly...

 AV> I guess your "over here" means Z1... well, the users' choice is not as
wide
 AV> as it's in Z2 (and especially in R50)

this doesn't make sense... yes, your guess is correct... Z1 users have plenty
of options they may choose from if they do not like the text editor used on a
certain BBS... they may ask the sysop to install another text editor or they
may simply select another BBS to use... if they have been doing their posting
online, they may choose to use an offline mail capability like QWK or
BlueWave... if they choose that option, they may be able to use their own
external text editor instead of one that may be built into their offline mail
reader... sure, it is possible that they may choose to become a point system
but for many that is too much and too deep into the technology... they only
want to be able to read and write messages... the KIS principle at work...

 AV>  - the whole Z1 lists only 316 unique
 AV> sysop names (some of them are listed 6 times, like you, or even 9
 AV> times,
 AV> like Kurt Weiske or RJ Clay), including obviously special names like
 AV> "New_Sysop" (9), "new_sysop" (4), "New_Fido_SysOp" (4), "UUCP" (2),
 AV> "New_SysOp" (2).

 AV> However, the whole Fidonet is almost 6 times larger (1887 unique names),
so
 AV> here's much more options.

this has nothing to do with the discussion of text editors ;)

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