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   Are you referring to java the language, java the class library, java =
the vm, or something else sun assigns this brand name?

   java the language is supported by the .NET Framework along with C++, =
C#, VB, and a host of others.  That sun's java the class library or = sun's
java the vm isn't well suited for other languages reflects poorly = on it
not the other languages.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message =
news:428e48bd{at}w3.nls.net...
  > That's nothing to do with the language and everything to do with the =

  > environment.

  Agreed, but Java has the environment and C++ doesn't, and doesn't lend =

  itself to that kind of environment either.

  - Bob Comer


  "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message=20
  news:428e4833$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  > That's nothing to do with the language and everything to do with the =

  > environment. There's nothing intrinsic about Java that means the JVM =
is=20
  > cross-platform, I might choose to use the JVM and therefore end up =
with=20
  > Java, but that's a different argument.
  >
  > Paul
  >
  > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message=20
  > news:428de1e8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >> Cross platform.
  >>
  >> - Bob Comer 
  >>
  >> "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message=20
  >> news:428dcdeb{at}w3.nls.net...
  >>> But C++ can do all that. Managed/unmanaged. GC/non-GC, or both in =
the=20
  >>> same app.
  >>>
  >>> What is the advantage of Java as a language given there's no =
obvious=20
  >>> advantage to it as an environment? I suppose a more flexible =
'goto'=20
  >>> mechanism...
  >>>
  >>> Paul
  >
  >=20


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   Are you
referring to java =
the=20
language, java the class library, java the vm, or something else sun = assigns=20
this brand name?
 
   java the
language is =
supported by the=20
.NET Framework along with C++, C#, VB, and a host of others.  That
= sun's=20
java the class library or sun's java the vm isn't well suited for other=20
languages reflects poorly on it not the other
languages.
 
Rich
 

  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer_removeme{at}mindsp=">mailto:bobcomer_removeme{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer_removeme{at}mindsp=
ring.com>=20
  wrote in message news:428e48bd{at}w3.nls.net...&g=
t;=20
  That's nothing to do with the language and everything to do with the =
>=20
  environment.Agreed, but Java has the environment and C++ =
doesn't, and=20
  doesn't lend itself to that kind of environment
either.- =
Bob=20
  Comer"Paul Ranson" <paul{at}barkto.com>">mailto:paul{at}barkto.com">paul{at}barkto.com>
wrote in =
message news:428e4833$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>=20
  That's nothing to do with the language and everything to do with the =
>=20
  environment. There's nothing intrinsic about Java that means the JVM =
is=20
  > cross-platform, I might choose to use the JVM and therefore =
end up=20
  with > Java, but that's a different
argument.>>=20
  Paul>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer_removeme{at}mindsp=">mailto:bobcomer_removeme{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer_removeme{at}mindsp=
ring.com>=20
  wrote in message > news:428de1e8$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>>=20
  Cross platform.>>>> - Bob
Comer <I can run java =
on=20
  anything>>>>>
"Paul Ranson" <paul{at}barkto.com>">mailto:paul{at}barkto.com">paul{at}barkto.com>
wrote in =
message=20
  >> news:428dcdeb{at}w3.nls.net...>=
>>=20
  But C++ can do all that. Managed/unmanaged. GC/non-GC, or both in the=20
  >>> same
app.>>>>>>
What is the =

  advantage of Java as a language given there's no obvious =
>>>=20
  advantage to it as an environment? I suppose a more flexible 'goto'=20
  >>>
mechanism...>>>>>>=20
  Paul>>


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