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to: Robert Comer
from: Rich
date: 2005-05-22 20:10:34
subject: Re: jvm language limitations

From: "Rich" 

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   That's OK.  Honestly, you can't easily answer a question like "what =
is X designed for".  One reason is that the question is more why than
= what.  Another is that the motivation to create something does not tell =
you what ultimately is created or how it evolves.  To answer the what = for
the .NET Framework you can say that it is Microsoft's implementation = of
international standards from ECMA and ISO.  Of course it is more than =
that both because it is a superset and because that alone doesn't tell =
you when or why you might choose this over alternatives.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message =
news:4291279d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Well, I did admit I was a beginner .NET programmer (Not beginning =
programmer=20
  though), so I wasn't that confident in my responses anyway -- I'm just =

  trying to learn...

  - Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:4290cf43{at}w3.nls.net...
     I'm not attacking you.  At worst I targeted the one post in answer =
to=20
  gary's question.  I didn't answer his question because based on his =
other=20
  posts I don't believe he really cares and I don't care enough to =
suggest the=20
  obvious, visit www.microsoft.com and spend a minute looking for an =
answer.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message=20
  news:42902da0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Okay, so then answer his question, rather than atacking me, that =
would be
    the most helpful.

    - Bob Comer


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:428f65ce{at}w3.nls.net...
       In this context nothing.  bob's statement is pretty much the same =
as
    saying the java vm and class libraries are design for java =
bytecodes.
    Meaningless and false.

    Rich

      "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
    news:428f5cd4{at}w3.nls.net...
      What does managed code mean?

      Gary

      "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
      news:428f117d{at}w3.nls.net...
      > > What is .NET designed for then??
      >
      > Managed code mostly.
      >
      > - Bob Comer
      >
      >
      > "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
      > news:428eb478{at}w3.nls.net...
      > >
      > > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
      > > news:428e9426$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > >> >   Are you referring to java the language, java the class =
library,
      java
      > > the
      > >> > vm, or something else sun assigns this brand name?<
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> I don't really count Java (vm) and .NET as competitors, =
they're
      designed
      > > for
      > >> different tasks and both do fairly well what they were =
designed=20
  for.
      > >>
      > >> - Bob Comer
      > >
      > >
      > > What is .NET designed for then??
      > >
      > > Gary
      > >
      > >
      >
      >




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   That's
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create something does not tell you what ultimately is created or how it=20
evolves.  To answer the what for the .NET Framework you
can = say that=20
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ISO.  Of course it is more than that both because it is a superset = and=20
because that alone doesn't tell you when or why you =
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Rich
 

  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer_removeme{at}mindsp=">mailto:bobcomer_removeme{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer_removeme{at}mindsp=
ring.com>=20
  wrote in message news:4291279d$1{at}w3.nls.net...Well,=20
  I did admit I was a beginner .NET programmer (Not beginning programmer =

  though), so I wasn't that confident in my responses anyway -- I'm =
just=20
  trying to learn...- Bob
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  I'm not attacking you.  At worst I targeted the one post in =
answer to=20
  gary's question.  I didn't answer his question because based =
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ring.com>=20
  wrote in message news:42902da0$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  Okay, so then answer his question, rather than atacking me, that would =

  be  the most helpful.  - Bob =
Comer =20
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428f65ce{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;   =20
  In this context nothing.  bob's statement is pretty much the same =

  as  saying the java vm and class libraries are design for =
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  bytecodes.  Meaningless and
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  Rich    "Gary
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wrote in=20
  message  news:428f5cd4{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;  =20
  What does managed code mean?   =20
  Gary    "Robert
Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  message    news:428f117d{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;  =20
  > > What is .NET designed for
then??   =20
  >    > Managed code =
mostly.   =20
  >    > - Bob
Comer   =20
  >   
>    > "Gary =
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=
wrote in=20
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p;  =20
  > >    >
> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  message    > > news:428e9426$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  > >> >   Are you referring
to java the language, =
java=20
  the class library,   
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> vm, or something else sun =
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> >> I don't really count =
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  >> - Bob Comer    > =
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> What is .NET designed for=20
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  Gary    >
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