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to: MARK LEWIS
from: ALEXEY VISSARIONOV
date: 2016-03-03 08:57:00
subject: FSP-1040.001 draft 0

Good ${greeting_time}, mark!

02 Mar 2016 09:50:46, you wrote to me:

 >>>> However, almost all message editors comply to it, so that's
 >>>> common practice.
 SH>>> Maybe if you only include message editors specifically written
 SH>>> for FidoNet rather than all message editors.
 AV>> Obviously, yes: all other message editors are out-of-scope here.
 ml> really? what about all the new *nix based systems that use nano
 ml> or vi

They are generic text editors, not message editors.

 ml> or even emacs

Really? They finally created a text editor for it?

 ml> for their users' message editor?

The use of a text editor to compose messages (like I do with vim) doesn't make
that text editor a message editor.

 ml> at least they can write and display UTF-8...

Never used that until beginning to learn Chinese...

 ml> which is more important?

Whether the msged will support UTF-8, would you use it?
What if it will be a Linux-only fork?

 >>>> Moreover, people with incompliant editors may be banned from some
 >>>> echoareas.
 SH>>> Sounds like areas that aren't worth posting in anyway if they'll
 SH>>> be happy to punish users for decisions their sysops make.
 AV>> In practice, those users simply move to points.
 ml> not over here they don't... they never have... they live with the
         ^^^^^^^^^
 ml> situation OR they find another BBS OR both... in some cases, they
 ml> might be able to get their sysop to find a new and better editor
 ml> for them to use but that won't help at all if the BBS doesn't place
 ml> the quotes in the temporary message file properly...

I guess your "over here" means Z1... well, the users' choice is not as wide as
it's in Z2 (and especially in R50) - the whole Z1 lists only 316 unique sysop
names (some of them are listed 6 times, like you, or even 9 times, like Kurt
Weiske or RJ Clay), including obviously special names like "New_Sysop" (9),
"new_sysop" (4), "New_Fido_SysOp" (4), "UUCP" (2), "New_SysOp" (2).

However, the whole Fidonet is almost 6 times larger (1887 unique names), so
here's much more options.


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