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to: BOB STOUT
from: LESLIE SATENSTEIN
date: 1997-12-27 13:59:00
subject: I need c++

In a previous message concerning " I need c++ ",
Bob Stout said.....
BS> On , Hans Bakker (2:282/210@fidonet) wrote: 
BS> 
BS>  JJ> Jake - I'm not sure about Canadian law, but anyone in the States who
BS>  JJ> would upload a copy of a C++ compiler for you would be infringing on
BS>  JJ> somebody's copyright (Could be Symantec, Watcom, MicroSoft, Borland,
BS>  JJ> or whom ever's compiler they uploaded) and subjecting themselves to 

BS> 
BS>  > hmm . .  I don't think that people who use it for their hobby  are 
using
BS>  > a legal copy.  Only people who use it for their job are using legal 
copy's
BS> 
BS> Hans...
BS> 
BS>   If you're correct, then I must assume that most hobbyists 
BS> in Europe are thieves. Thanks for the warning - if I were 
BS> to believe you, I'd be sure never to try to market 
BS> anything there. Fortunately, I know enough people (both 
BS> pros and hobbyists) over there who are not software 
BS> thieves, so I know you don't speak for everyone. Your 
BS> statement is an insult and an affront to all the hobbyists 
BS> in zone 2 who don't share your disregard for the law. 
BS> 
BS> 
BS> --- QM v1.00
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Hi Bob, 
Season's greetings.
I don't condone piracy, but sometimes I wonder if I am right. I no
longer program entirely in C, or CPP, and therefore my compilers are
not used as they should be. 
Often times I have need to evaluate some software that is not offered
as evaluation copies. What to do? My computer club doesn't have the
resources to buy the package, even though they many times get a
discount on purchases so that a copy could be bought and given as a
door prize, etc....
So.. I read the glossy's and wonder about many products. I often think
of doing a shared purchase, as a sale to two individuals is better than
none. This I have not done yet. 
The best approach to software evaluation that I have experienced, and
I applaud them for it, is from IBM. One can download and install the
product, and it will run for 60 days. After which, it is disabled. No
amount of additional reinstalling will get it to work, except for a
operating system resinstall (clever of them).
In this way I purchased their VISUAL CPP product after I learned all
it's capabilities. Other vendors could follow their example. Perhaps it
would mean many more sales and much fewer pirated copies?
 
Leslie Satenstein
97/12/25
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