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to: Geo
from: Rich
date: 2005-05-21 08:50:22
subject: Re: .NET is secure?

From: "Rich" 

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   You have the choice to use whatever method you want.  For home users =
I think that Windows Update is the best method and the only one I = recommend.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:428f2b57$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  re windowsupdate, right, there is office update as well..

  Actually I didn't mean to say WU is the only patch method, what I was =
saying is that dependence on it as "your" only patch method is a
bad = idea.

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:428e029f{at}w3.nls.net...
       I didn't say they don't matter.  Read what I wrote.

       Windows Update is not and has never been the only source for =
updates.

    Rich

      "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:428dbbca{at}w3.nls.net...
      Rich,

      If they don't matter then why did I have to download a 10mb patch =
and then a 1.5mb patch? Also don't misunderstand what I'm saying, I'm =
definitely NOT saying that the .NET framework is less secure than any =
other piece of software out there, it's about average imo. What I am =
saying is I didn't need it or the patches except to run this one program =
I wanted to try and my issue wasn't even that it's needed patches over =
it's lifetime but that the current version isn't patched and even the =
10mb patch wasn't patched.

      I do not like the whole idea of Windowsupdate as the ONLY patch =
method for one reason. Lets see you use it to patch NT4workstation, =
Win95, Win98, or anything else MS feels doesn't require support anymore.

      If when MS made that decision they put all the patches for these =
products on some website/ftpsite and did it in a nice organized way to =
take care of the remaining customers still running these products then I =
wouldn't have the issue but just go and try to reinstall NT4ws and patch =
it today and well you'll certainly understand my point then.

      If it were up to me, there would be a law that says when a =
software product is EOL'ed, the final act of the authors must be to make =
available a final release that contains everything up to that point and =
that all copy protection must be removed so when the copyright expires =
the world can enjoy the product they protected with that copyright for = so
long.

      Geo.
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   You have
the choice to use =
whatever=20
method you want.  For home users I think that Windows Update is
the = best=20
method and the only one I recommend.
 
Rich
 
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> wrote=20 in message news:428f2b57$1{at}w3.nls.net... re windowsupdate, right, there is = office update=20 as well..<g> Actually I didn't mean to say WU is = the only=20 patch method, what I was saying is that dependence on it = as "your" only=20 patch method is a bad idea. Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428e029f{at}w3.nls.net... I didn't say they = don't=20 matter. Read what I wrote. Windows Update is not = and has=20 never been the only source for updates. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20 wrote in message news:428dbbca{at}w3.nls.net... Rich, If they don't matter then why did = I have to=20 download a 10mb patch and then a 1.5mb patch? Also don't = misunderstand=20 what I'm saying, I'm definitely NOT saying that the .NET framework = is less=20 secure than any other piece of software out there, it's about = average imo.=20 What I am saying is I didn't need it or the patches except to run = this one=20 program I wanted to try and my issue wasn't even that it's needed = patches=20 over it's lifetime but that the current version isn't patched and = even the=20 10mb patch wasn't patched. I do not like the whole idea of = Windowsupdate=20 as the ONLY patch method for one reason. Lets see you use it to = patch=20 NT4workstation, Win95, Win98, or anything else MS feels doesn't = require=20 support anymore. If when MS made that decision = they put all=20 the patches for these products on some website/ftpsite and did it = in a=20 nice organized way to take care of the remaining customers still = running=20 these products then I wouldn't have the issue but just go and try = to=20 reinstall NT4ws and patch it today and well you'll certainly = understand my=20 point then. If it were up to me, there would = be a law=20 that says when a software product is EOL'ed, the final act of the = authors=20 must be to make available a final release that contains everything = up to=20 that point and that all copy protection must be removed so when = the=20 copyright expires the world can enjoy the product they protected = with that=20 copyright for so long. Geo.<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C55DE2.203EDD30-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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