From: "Geo" 

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re windowsupdate, right, there is office update as well..

Actually I didn't mean to say WU is the only patch method, what I was =
saying is that dependence on it as "your" only patch method is a
bad = idea.

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:428e029f{at}w3.nls.net...
     I didn't say they don't matter.  Read what I wrote.

     Windows Update is not and has never been the only source for =
updates.

  Rich

    "Geo"  wrote in message
news:428dbbca{at}w3.nls.net...
    Rich,

    If they don't matter then why did I have to download a 10mb patch =
and then a 1.5mb patch? Also don't misunderstand what I'm saying, I'm =
definitely NOT saying that the .NET framework is less secure than any =
other piece of software out there, it's about average imo. What I am =
saying is I didn't need it or the patches except to run this one program =
I wanted to try and my issue wasn't even that it's needed patches over =
it's lifetime but that the current version isn't patched and even the =
10mb patch wasn't patched.

    I do not like the whole idea of Windowsupdate as the ONLY patch =
method for one reason. Lets see you use it to patch NT4workstation, =
Win95, Win98, or anything else MS feels doesn't require support anymore.

    If when MS made that decision they put all the patches for these =
products on some website/ftpsite and did it in a nice organized way to =
take care of the remaining customers still running these products then I =
wouldn't have the issue but just go and try to reinstall NT4ws and patch =
it today and well you'll certainly understand my point then.

    If it were up to me, there would be a law that says when a software =
product is EOL'ed, the final act of the authors must be to make = available
a final release that contains everything up to that point and = that all
copy protection must be removed so when the copyright expires = the world
can enjoy the product they protected with that copyright for = so long.

    Geo.
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re windowsupdate, right, there is =
office update as=20
well..<g>
 
Actually I didn't mean to say
WU is the =
only patch=20
method, what I was saying is that dependence on it
as "your" only = patch=20
method is a bad idea.
 
Geo.

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428e029f{at}w3.nls.net...
     I
didn't say they don't=20
  matter.  Read what I wrote.
   
     Windows
Update is not =
and has never=20
  been the only source for updates.
   
  Rich
   
  

    "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
    wrote in message news:428dbbca{at}w3.nls.net...
    Rich,
     
    If they don't matter then
why did I =
have to=20
    download a 10mb patch and then a 1.5mb patch? Also don't =
misunderstand what=20
    I'm saying, I'm definitely NOT saying that the .NET framework is =
less secure=20
    than any other piece of software out there, it's about average imo. =
What I=20
    am saying is I didn't need it or the patches except to run this one =
program=20
    I wanted to try and my issue wasn't even that it's needed patches =
over it's=20
    lifetime but that the current version isn't patched and even the =
10mb patch=20
    wasn't patched.
     
    I do not like the whole idea of =
Windowsupdate=20
    as the ONLY patch method for one reason. Lets see you use it to =
patch=20
    NT4workstation, Win95, Win98, or anything else MS feels doesn't =
require=20
    support anymore.
     
    If when MS made that decision they =
put all the=20
    patches for these products on some website/ftpsite and did it in a =
nice=20
    organized way to take care of the remaining customers still running =
these=20
    products then I wouldn't have the issue but just go and try to =
reinstall=20
    NT4ws and patch it today and well you'll certainly understand my =
point=20
    then.
     
    If it were up to me, there
would be =
a law that=20
    says when a software product is EOL'ed, the final act of the authors =
must be=20
    to make available a final release that contains everything up to =
that point=20
    and that all copy protection must be removed so when the copyright =
expires=20
    the world can enjoy the product they protected with that copyright =
for so=20
    long.
     
    Geo.

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