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Well ok I see your point but the motivation is not "because its good
for = customers" the motivation is "because its good for
MS". The motivation = is really no different than with car companies.
Go ask a microsoft rep = about software for windows like say a media player
and they aren't going = to tell you about anything but the MS versions and
if you talk to the = people who make that media player they are going to
tell you MS is no = different than the car companies who don't want you
buying non-OEM = parts.

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:428e013c{at}w3.nls.net...
     Yes, because it is good for customers.  Do that and you get more =
customers buying more product.

  Rich

    "Geo"  wrote in message
news:428db969{at}w3.nls.net...
    Because it is good for customers? More like because it drives =
windows sales (what good is an OS that can only run MS software?)

    If MS was really doing it because it is good for customers, there =
would be a linux version of Office.

    Geo.
      "Rich"  wrote in message news:428d8235{at}w3.nls.net...
         There is an aftermarket but little supported by the =
manufacters.  My car manufacturer only wants me to buy parts they sell =
and service from them.  I can go elsewhere but not with their aid.  In =
contrast Microsoft encourages hardware and software manufactures to =
develop products for Windows even when this is in competition to = products
Microsoft offers.  Why?  Because it is good for the customers.  = It is
easy to build on Windows and with Windows.  Why do you think there = is
such a large market for Windows and products for Windows?

      Rich

        "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:428b1443$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        Oh right, you are stuck running goodyear tires and OEM brakepads =
and there is no such thing as an aftermarket windshield.=20

        My point remains, when I go and download sygate I get the =
current version, when I download AVG I get the current version (perhaps =
not the current definitions but the software is at least the latest =
build), etc. Even if you do find some software where the initial = download
isn't current and requires a patch, it doesn't require that you = patch it
twice just to get up to date.

        Geo.
          "Rich"  wrote in message news:428ab5cb{at}w3.nls.net...
             Nice spin.  Maybe you should use cars as an example again =
and how the car manufactures do little so support a third party after =
market.  Which do you think is more customer oriented now?

          Rich

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Well ok I see your point but the =
motivation is not=20
"because its good for customers" the motivation is "because
its good for = MS".=20
The motivation is really no different than with car companies. Go ask a=20
microsoft rep about software for windows like say a media player and = they
aren't=20
going to tell you about anything but the MS versions and if you talk to = the=20
people who make that media player they are going to tell you MS is no = different=20
than the car companies who don't want you buying non-OEM =
parts.
 
Geo.

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428e013c{at}w3.nls.net...
     Yes,
because it is good =
for=20
  customers.  Do that and you get more customers buying more=20
  product.
   
  Rich
   
  

    "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
    wrote in message news:428db969{at}w3.nls.net...
    Because it is good for customers? =
More like=20
    because it drives windows sales (what good is an OS that can only =
run MS=20
    software?)
     
    If MS was really doing it because =
it is good=20
    for customers, there would be a linux version of =
Office.
     
    Geo.
    

      "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428d8235{at}w3.nls.net...
         There is an =
aftermarket but=20
      little supported by the manufacters.  My car manufacturer =
only wants=20
      me to buy parts they sell and service from them.  I can go =
elsewhere=20
      but not with their aid.  In contrast Microsoft encourages =
hardware=20
      and software manufactures to develop products for Windows even =
when this=20
      is in competition to products Microsoft offers.  Why?  =
Because=20
      it is good for the customers.  It is easy to build on Windows =
and=20
      with Windows.  Why do you think there is such a large market =
for=20
      Windows and products for Windows?
       
      Rich
       
      

        "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
        wrote in message news:428b1443$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        Oh right, you are
stuck running =
goodyear=20
        tires and OEM brakepads and there is no such thing as an =
aftermarket=20
        windshield. 
         
        My point remains, when
I go and =
download=20
        sygate I get the current version, when I download AVG I get the =
current=20
        version (perhaps not the current definitions but the software is =
at=20
        least the latest build), etc. Even if you do find some=20
        software where the initial download isn't current and =
requires=20
        a patch, it doesn't require that you patch it twice just to get =
up to=20
        date.
         
        Geo.
        

          "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428ab5cb{at}w3.nls.net...
            
Nice spin.  =
Maybe you=20
          should use cars as an example again and how the car =
manufactures do=20
          little so support a third party after market.  Which do =
you think=20
          is more customer oriented now?
          Rich
          =
 

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