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   You need not in C++ either.  Plus, any app for which most of your =
functionality comes from a support library is probably not an = interesting one.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:428f110c{at}w3.nls.net...
  True, but you don't have to call native methods in Java to get good=20
  functionality, in C++, you have to.

  - Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:428eb3cd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     In that regard, so is java and any other language that allows you =
to call=20
  platform specific methods.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message=20
  news:428e94c3{at}w3.nls.net...
    > C++ runs on anything also.

    The language does, but something written in C++ for WIn32 will only =
run
    under Win32.  it's the nature of the beast, C++ is a generic =
language that
    has platform specific methods.

    - Bob Comer


    "Ellen K."  wrote in message
    news:gc4t81lg4u2mckqtpraic4kh2jpqf1e2km{at}4ax.com...
    > C++ runs on anything also.
    >
    > On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:13:56 -0400, "Robert Comer"
    >  wrote in message
    > :
    >
    >>Cross platform.
    >>
    >>- Bob Comer 
    >>
    >>"Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
    >>news:428dcdeb{at}w3.nls.net...
    >>> But C++ can do all that. Managed/unmanaged. GC/non-GC, or both =
in the
    >>> same
    >>> app.
    >>>
    >>> What is the advantage of Java as a language given there's no =
obvious
    >>> advantage to it as an environment? I suppose a more flexible =
'goto'
    >>> mechanism...
    >>>
    >>> Paul
    >>>
    >>> "Adam"  wrote
in message
    >>> news:428db7a2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    >>>> Rubbish.
    >>>>
    >>>> For speed I can show you a load of independant studies where
    >>>> inline/dynaminc compiling etc means that the load time
might be =

  longer
    >>>> but the execution time might actually be shorter.
    >>>>
    >>>> For predictability...nope. You can control the gc as
you wish & =
there
    >>>> are
    >>>> a number of other ways you can make very predictable java =
systems.
    >>>>
    >>>> Adam
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >



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   You need
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Plus, any app for which most of your functionality comes from a support = library=20
is probably not an interesting one.
 
Rich
 

  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
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ue, but=20
  you don't have to call native methods in Java to get good =
functionality,=20
  in C++, you have to.- Bob
Comer"Rich" <{at}> =
wrote in=20
  message news:428eb3cd$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  In that regard, so is java and any other language that allows you to =
call=20
  platform specific
methods.Rich  "Robert
=
Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  message news:428e94c3{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; >=20
  C++ runs on anything also.  The language does, but =
something=20
  written in C++ for WIn32 will only run  under Win32.  =
it's the=20
  nature of the beast, C++ is a generic language that  has =
platform=20
  specific methods.  - Bob
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t;=20
  wrote in message  news:gc4t81lg4u2=
mckqtpraic4kh2jpqf1e2km{at}4ax.com... =20
  > C++ runs on anything also. 
>  > On Fri, =
20 May=20
  2005 09:13:56 -0400, "Robert Comer" 
> <bobcomer_removeme{at}mindsp=">mailto:bobcomer_removeme{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer_removeme{at}mindsp=
ring.com>=20
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  >  >>Cross
platform.  >>  =
>>-=20
  Bob Comer <I can run java on anything>  =
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  >>"Paul Ranson" <paul{at}barkto.com>">mailto:paul{at}barkto.com">paul{at}barkto.com>
wrote in=20
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>>news:428dcdeb{at}w3.nls.net...  =
>>>=20
  But C++ can do all that. Managed/unmanaged. GC/non-GC, or both in=20
  the  >>> same 
>>> app. =20
  >>>  >>>
What is the advantage of Java as a =

  language given there's no obvious 
>>> advantage to =
it as an=20
  environment? I suppose a more flexible 'goto' 
>>>=20
  mechanism... 
>>>  >>> =
Paul =20
  >>>  >>>
"Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moesmailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts{at}moes
A>>=20
  wrote in message  >>> news:428db7a2$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
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  >>>> Rubbish. 
>>>> =20
  >>>> For speed I can show you a load of independant =
studies=20
  where  >>>>
inline/dynaminc compiling etc means =
that the=20
  load time might be longer 
>>>> but the =
execution=20
  time might actually be shorter. 
>>>> =20
  >>>> For predictability...nope. You can
control the gc as =
you wish=20
  & there  >>>>
are  >>>> =
a number=20
  of other ways you can make very predictable java systems. =20
  >>>> 
>>>> Adam =20
  >>> 
>>> 
>> =20
  >

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