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>David Martorana wrote to Mark Bloss about Back to Apes
 DM> Then it hit me....!
 DM> In our endless arguments on the nitpicks of "evolution"
 DM> we may have both gotten it a bit bent backwards. It may
 DM> not be so much that we derived FROM the apes .......but
 DM> that we are headed in that direction  ......! Though
 DM> essentially a cautious irritable evolutionist, I do try
 DM> to keep an open view as to directions and sense of human
 DM> comedy.
 Well, if indeed the second law of thermodynamics could be applied
 to biological evolution, then indeed we would have to pre-suppose
 we are becoming less complex, biologically, as well.  Therefore 
 it is as scientific to assume that the apes are the latter form
 of man, as to assume the opposite.  
 
 I would point out, naturally, that no one can say how the hominid
 came to be.  If one would answer that we came to be from a simpler
 mammal, such as a rat or a pig, then from what simpler mammal than
 that did the rat or the pig arise?  If an answer then is forthcoming
 we begin an endless trek through the "lower" forms, all the way back
 to an amoeba or a cyanic bacterium.  But then the questions seem to
 become less and less scientific.  From what force did the life which
 forms the cyanic bacterium come?  What _caused_ life itself?  
 
 Unless we answer _how_ life came to be, we can no more say we _know_
 evolution is the mechanism of life's processes.  BECAUSE we know NOT
 that each and every species did not become _alive_ as is, that is, in
 their current form.  We only want to push it backwards to the point of
 "first life" and call that the beginning.  But how say we come to that
 conclusion?  Does it not presuppose a beginning?  A "first life"?
 
 I suggest we now inspect closely the only place in the universe we can
 easily reach which closely resembles the early condititions of earth:
 Venus.  Is life 'happening' there?  Are cyanic bacterium thriving there
 on Sodium Hydroxide as it must have here on Earth 2 billion years ago?
 And if so, by what processes did it come to "be" there on Venus?  Did it
 arrive already equipped as bacteria-spores hidden in the crevices of
 a meteorite?  Or was it deliberately put there.  And did all life on 
 Earth evolve from just this sort of seeding process... from space?  Or, 
 does life have some other catylyst, and all its various specie already
 mapped out in a grand scheme we only suspect could exist.  Could the
 process whereby we came to be, be a planned event?  Could we seed 
 Venus to produce intelligence in 4 billion years by _design_?  Could 
 that be _why_ we are here?  Why someone is out there?  And we can touch
 on this by speculation only, and by no other means I know.  But if
 such a thing did happen, then this may imply that the dynosaur must
 have come first, and then been annihilated _on purpose_, to make way for
 the eco-system we know and love, and which produced us, the brains of 
 this outfit, as it were, so that life could be seeded elsewhere in time,
 and deliberately, as if to say life itself is the entity which drives
 us.
 
 But we push life's catylyst off on some other world, some other eco-system
 much different than our own.  But why not?  We do the same thing with
 our evolutionary speculations, pushing back the origin of life on our
 reluctant would-be "ancestor", the cyanic bacterium.
 
... Thoughts in this message are weirder than they appear.
--- GEcho 1.11++TAG 2.7c
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