From: "Robert Comer" 

>   What is java generic?

Java as a generic term.

>Do you mean that you don't know or are you hand waving?

Of course I know how it works, and probably java VM is closest, but I
wasn't speaking at that level.

>   Does RPG compiled to jvm bytecodes have the same functionality as the
> native RPG?

Yes.

fwiw, there's a RPG .NET too.   (It's not called that, but it is
Visual RPG from asna I believe.)

- Bob Comer


"Rich"  wrote in message news:428e969c{at}w3.nls.net...
   What is java generic?  Do you mean that you don't know or are you hand
waving?

   Does RPG compiled to jvm bytecodes have the same functionality as the
native RPG?  There are reasons that the jvm can not do well.  It has
limited data types and lacks support for constructs not in the java
language.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:428e9426$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >   Are you referring to java the language, java the class library, java
the
  > vm, or something else sun assigns this brand name?<

  Java generic.

  >   java the language is supported by the .NET Framework along with C++,
C#,
  > VB, and a host of >others.

  I know.

  >That sun's java the class library or sun's java the vm isn't well suited
  >for other languages reflects >poorly on it not the other languages.

  Not really, and actually there's no reason it couldn't as I've seen an RPG
  compiler that spit out Java vm bytecode -- just nobody sees a need for
  multiple languages in the Java vm.

  I don't really count Java (vm) and .NET as competitors, they're designed
for
  different tasks and both do fairly well what they were designed for.

  - Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:428e7e0f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Are you referring to java the language, java the class library, java
the
  vm, or something else sun assigns this brand name?

     java the language is supported by the .NET Framework along with C++,
C#,
  VB, and a host of others.  That sun's java the class library or sun's java
  the vm isn't well suited for other languages reflects poorly on it not the
  other languages.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message
  news:428e48bd{at}w3.nls.net...
    > That's nothing to do with the language and everything to do with the
    > environment.

    Agreed, but Java has the environment and C++ doesn't, and doesn't lend
    itself to that kind of environment either.

    - Bob Comer


    "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
    news:428e4833$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    > That's nothing to do with the language and everything to do with the
    > environment. There's nothing intrinsic about Java that means the JVM
is
    > cross-platform, I might choose to use the JVM and therefore end up
with
    > Java, but that's a different argument.
    >
    > Paul
    >
    > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
    > news:428de1e8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    >> Cross platform.
    >>
    >> - Bob Comer 
    >>
    >> "Paul Ranson"  wrote in message
    >> news:428dcdeb{at}w3.nls.net...
    >>> But C++ can do all that. Managed/unmanaged. GC/non-GC, or both in
the
    >>> same app.
    >>>
    >>> What is the advantage of Java as a language given there's no obvious
    >>> advantage to it as an environment? I suppose a more flexible 'goto'
    >>> mechanism...
    >>>
    >>> Paul
    >
    >

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