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to: Rich
from: Geo
date: 2005-05-21 14:07:38
subject: Re: .NET is secure?

From: "Geo" 

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right now I'm a home user...

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:428f57e1{at}w3.nls.net...
     You have the choice to use whatever method you want.  For home =
users I think that Windows Update is the best method and the only one I = recommend.

  Rich

    "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:428f2b57$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    re windowsupdate, right, there is office update as well..

    Actually I didn't mean to say WU is the only patch method, what I =
was saying is that dependence on it as "your" only patch method
is a bad = idea.

    Geo.
      "Rich"  wrote in message news:428e029f{at}w3.nls.net...
         I didn't say they don't matter.  Read what I wrote.

         Windows Update is not and has never been the only source for =
updates.

      Rich

        "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:428dbbca{at}w3.nls.net...
        Rich,

        If they don't matter then why did I have to download a 10mb =
patch and then a 1.5mb patch? Also don't misunderstand what I'm saying, =
I'm definitely NOT saying that the .NET framework is less secure than = any
other piece of software out there, it's about average imo. What I am =
saying is I didn't need it or the patches except to run this one program =
I wanted to try and my issue wasn't even that it's needed patches over =
it's lifetime but that the current version isn't patched and even the =
10mb patch wasn't patched.

        I do not like the whole idea of Windowsupdate as the ONLY patch =
method for one reason. Lets see you use it to patch NT4workstation, =
Win95, Win98, or anything else MS feels doesn't require support anymore.

        If when MS made that decision they put all the patches for these =
products on some website/ftpsite and did it in a nice organized way to =
take care of the remaining customers still running these products then I =
wouldn't have the issue but just go and try to reinstall NT4ws and patch =
it today and well you'll certainly understand my point then.

        If it were up to me, there would be a law that says when a =
software product is EOL'ed, the final act of the authors must be to make =
available a final release that contains everything up to that point and =
that all copy protection must be removed so when the copyright expires =
the world can enjoy the product they protected with that copyright for = so
long.

        Geo.
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right now I'm a home =
user...
 
Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428f57e1{at}w3.nls.net... You have the choice to = use whatever=20 method you want. For home users I think that Windows Update is = the best=20 method and the only one I recommend. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20 wrote in message news:428f2b57$1{at}w3.nls.net... re windowsupdate, right, there is = office update=20 as well..<g> Actually I didn't mean to say WU is = the only=20 patch method, what I was saying is that dependence on it = as "your" only=20 patch method is a bad idea. Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:428e029f{at}w3.nls.net... I didn't say they = don't=20 matter. Read what I wrote. Windows Update is = not and has=20 never been the only source for updates. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20 wrote in message news:428dbbca{at}w3.nls.net... Rich, If they don't matter then why = did I have to=20 download a 10mb patch and then a 1.5mb patch? Also don't = misunderstand=20 what I'm saying, I'm definitely NOT saying that the .NET = framework is=20 less secure than any other piece of software out there, it's = about=20 average imo. What I am saying is I didn't need it or the patches = except=20 to run this one program I wanted to try and my issue wasn't even = that=20 it's needed patches over it's lifetime but that the current = version=20 isn't patched and even the 10mb patch wasn't = patched. I do not like the whole idea of = Windowsupdate as the ONLY patch method for one reason. Lets see = you use=20 it to patch NT4workstation, Win95, Win98, or anything else MS = feels=20 doesn't require support anymore. If when MS made that decision = they put all=20 the patches for these products on some website/ftpsite and did = it in a=20 nice organized way to take care of the remaining customers still = running=20 these products then I wouldn't have the issue but just go and = try to=20 reinstall NT4ws and patch it today and well you'll certainly = understand=20 my point then. If it were up to me, there = would be a law=20 that says when a software product is EOL'ed, the final act of = the=20 authors must be to make available a final release that contains=20 everything up to that point and that all copy protection must be = removed=20 so when the copyright expires the world can enjoy the product = they=20 protected with that copyright for so long. Geo. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C55E0E.72BC3FE0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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