Hi Rich, as you were just saying about Re: Gang Turf....
RW> CH> Excellent topic, Tom.  What do you think about a "Task Force" 
RW> CH> strategy whereby the task force would move into such an area before 
RW> CH> the gang has a chance to take over?  The task force could organize 
RW> CH> and inform the citizens while taking police action to discourage the 
RW> CH> gang members.
RW> 
RW> RB> So, basically, the police would just be another gang,
RW> RB> starting things out with  an adversarial, aggressive
RW> RB> attitude? Sounds horrible, but *very* feasible. 
RW> 
RW> My suggestion would be allowing every adult in the area
RW> to carry a concealed weapon.  Let the gang know that
RW> they are in danger if the try to commit a crime.
The major problem that I see with that is that is that most crimes
committed those areas are property crimes which do not carry a death
penalty.  This means that in order for the citizen to act with the
possibility of deadly force, he/she must feel that their life (or a
third party's) are in immediate danger of loss or serious bodily harm.
 As far as I know, the only other times a citizen may shoot is to prevent
a rape or arson of an occupied building.  A citizen cannot shoot someone
for resisting arrest.   The bottom line is that unless it falls into a
legal shooting situation, carrying a gun is a rather empty threat.
Of course, one could attempt to stop the goblins as a normal citizen
should and then when they threatened you, it could very well be, "Katy,
bar the door...."   :^)
RD 
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