Yeah, well the interesting part is that programmers don't have a clue about
data modeling and consider the database a necessary evil because
 "It's so hard to use it with objects."


In our ILOG training, when we got to the part about using XML, they had us
ADD AN ATTRIBUTE IN THE XSD THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE BUSINESS OBJECT MODEL,
then process the XML data using a rule that used that attribute. Like,
either the business needs that rule or they don't, if they need it, the
attribute belongs in the BOM. 

> From: Adam Flinton 
> Rich wrote:
>> No.  Like using a support library or writing app specific code.  If
>> your app is nothing more than you tossing around buzzwords it is not
>> much of an app.
>> 
> Some day Rich they might tempt you down from your ivory tower with food
> or a picture of Gate's butt & you might realise that the majority of the
> corp apps are there to create &/or manipulate existing data.
> Till then gaze out across the fields where unicorns are skipping hoof in
> hand with elves & pixies.
> Most apps load up a fair chucnk of "non local code" wether it's an XML
> parser or a db driver. If you look at many mnay many apps you might well
> have 100KB of local code & 20,000kb of suppling libs.
> Now I accept maths may not be your strongest suit but if I had 1 apple &
> I had 20 oranges one could say the majority of the fruit was oranges.
> Anyone who writes any .net or java app has this in spades. In order to
> host say an ASP.net page taking in XML & connecting to say Oracle, how
> much code would be in my asp.net page vs how much in the
"supporting libs"?
> Adam
>> Rich
>> 
>> 
>> "Adam" > > wrote in message
>> news:4291b06a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Rich wrote:
>> 
>> >    You need not in C++ either.  Plus, any app for which most of your
>> > functionality comes from a support library is probably not an
>> > interesting one.
>> >
>> What like say talking to a DBMS or using XML?
>> 
>> Or are you saying you should write your own SQL your own Oracle/Db2 etc
>> driver & your own XML handling libs?
>> 
>> How about TCP protocol handling?
>> 
>> Adam

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