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   The interesting bits, the bits that provide a reason for your app to =
exist, are yours.  The support bits are just to save you time.

Rich

  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message =
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  Rich wrote:
  >    No.  Like using a support library or writing app specific code.  =
If=20
  > your app is nothing more than you tossing around buzzwords it is not =

  > much of an app.
  > =20

  Some day Rich they might tempt you down from your ivory tower with =
food=20
  or a picture of Gate's butt & you might realise that the majority of =
the=20
  corp apps are there to create &/or manipulate existing data.

  Till then gaze out across the fields where unicorns are skipping hoof =
in=20
  hand with elves & pixies.

  Most apps load up a fair chucnk of "non local code" wether it's an XML =

  parser or a db driver. If you look at many mnay many apps you might =
well=20
  have 100KB of local code & 20,000kb of suppling libs.

  Now I accept maths may not be your strongest suit but if I had 1 apple =
&=20
  I had 20 oranges one could say the majority of the fruit was oranges.

  Anyone who writes any .net or java app has this in spades. In order to =

  host say an ASP.net page taking in XML & connecting to say Oracle, how =

  much code would be in my asp.net page vs how much in the "supporting =
libs"?


  Adam

  > Rich
  > =20
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  >     "Adam"      > wrote in message
  >     news:4291b06a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >     Rich wrote:
  >=20
  >      >    You need not in C++ either.  Plus, any app for which most =
of your
  >      > functionality comes from a support library is probably not an
  >      > interesting one.
  >      >=20
  >     What like say talking to a DBMS or using XML?
  >=20
  >     Or are you saying you should write your own SQL your own =
Oracle/Db2 etc
  >     driver & your own XML handling libs?
  >=20
  >     How about TCP protocol handling?
  >=20
  >     Adam
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just to save you time.
 
Rich
 

  "Adam Flinton" <adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com>">mailto:adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com">adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com>
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  wrote:>    No.  Like
using a support =
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  writing app specific code.  If > your app is
nothing more =
than you=20
  tossing around buzzwords it is not > much of an =
app.> =20
  Some day Rich they might tempt you down from your ivory tower =
with=20
  food or a picture of Gate's butt & you might realise that the =
majority=20
  of the corp apps are there to create &/or manipulate existing=20
  data.Till then gaze out across the fields where unicorns are =
skipping=20
  hoof in hand with elves &
pixies.Most apps load up a =
fair=20
  chucnk of "non local code" wether it's an XML parser or a db =
driver. If=20
  you look at many mnay many apps you might well have 100KB of local =
code=20
  & 20,000kb of suppling libs.Now I accept
maths may not be =
your=20
  strongest suit but if I had 1 apple & I had 20 oranges one =
could say=20
  the majority of the fruit was oranges.Anyone who writes any =
.net or=20
  java app has this in spades. In order to host say an ASP.net page =
taking=20
  in XML & connecting to say Oracle, how much code would be in =
my=20
  asp.net page vs how much in the "supporting =
libs"?Adam>=20
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  Rich wrote:>
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  write your own SQL your own Oracle/Db2 =
etc>    =20
  driver & your own XML handling libs?>=20
  >     How about TCP protocol =
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  >    
Adam

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