From: "Rich" 

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   It sounds like you are fixated on the packaging of applications (e.g. =
.EXE vs. .class).  I have plenty of examples of components that do not =
bind directly to any Win32 APIs.  Your own example is easily expressed = in
portable ANSI C

        system(CommandString)

   I'm sure this isn't just because you are employed by sun.  I'm still =
a bit surprised that you are now claiming that portable code is = otherwise
not possible.

Rich

  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message =
news:4292f0ce$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:
  >    How so?
  > =20
  > Rich
  > =20
  >=20
  >     "Adam"      > wrote in message
  >     news:4291b00d{at}w3.nls.net...
  >     Rich wrote:
  >=20
  >      >    In that regard, so is java and any other language that =
allows
  >     you to
  >      > call platform specific methods.
  >      >
  >=20
  >=20
  >     Ummmm.......allows you to vs you using that platform specific =
allowance
  >     is somewhat different to compiling to a given platform.
  >=20
  >     Adam

  If I compile my source for Windows then I end up with a Windows=20
  executable. No real choice. If I go with Java I have the choice within =

  my app which runs on windows (i.e. hosted by a windows JVM) wether or=20
  not to bind it into windows by using specific windows calls. E.g. the=20
  .Net xml checker I wrote a little while back is called from within =
Java=20
  but it does so by using a string as the command & then simply calling =
:

  Runtime runtime =3D Runtime.getRuntime();
  Process proc =3D runtime.exec(CommandString);

  You then just chuck a buffered reader onto the InputStream you get =
back.

  That allows me to use the same thing on Linux with say Mono or indeed=20
  use a perl XMl checker on Unix if need be.

  But hey you know all that & you're just being evasive as an eel in a =
net=20
  as usual.


  Adam
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   It sounds
like you are =
fixated on the=20
packaging of applications (e.g. .EXE vs. .class).  I have plenty of =

examples of components that do not bind directly to any Win32 =
APIs.  Your=20
own example is easily expressed in portable ANSI C
 
   
   =20
system(CommandString)
 
   I'm sure
this isn't just =
because you=20
are employed by sun.  I'm still a bit surprised that you are now =
claiming=20
that portable code is otherwise not possible.
 
Rich
 

  "Adam Flinton" <adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com>">mailto:adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com">adam{at}NOSPAM_softfab.com>
= wrote in=20
  message news:4292f0ce$1{at}w3.nls.net...Rich=20
  wrote:>    How
so?>  >=20
  Rich>  >
>     "Adam"
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  wrote in message>     news:4291b00d{at}w3.nls.net...>=
    =20
  Rich wrote:>
>     =20
  >    In that regard, so is java and any other =
language that=20
  allows>     you=20
  to>     
> call platform specific=20
 
methods.>     
>> >=20
  >    
Ummmm.......allows you to vs you =
using that=20
  platform specific
allowance>     is =
somewhat=20
  different to compiling to a given platform.>=20
  >    
AdamIf I compile my source =
for=20
  Windows then I end up with a Windows executable. No real choice. =
If I go=20
  with Java I have the choice within my app which runs on windows =
(i.e.=20
  hosted by a windows JVM) wether or not to bind it into windows by =
using=20
  specific windows calls. E.g. the .Net xml checker I wrote a little =
while=20
  back is called from within Java but it does so by using a string =
as the=20
  command & then simply calling :Runtime runtime =3D=20
  Runtime.getRuntime();Process proc =3D=20
  runtime.exec(CommandString);You then just chuck a buffered =
reader onto=20
  the InputStream you get back.That allows me to use the same =
thing on=20
  Linux with say Mono or indeed use a perl XMl checker on Unix if =
need=20
  be.But hey you know all that & you're just
being evasive =
as an eel=20
  in a net as
usual.Adam

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