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to: Ellen K.
from: Rich
date: 2005-05-31 08:08:10
subject: Re: Good news

From: "Rich" 

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   Nope.  There should be some SQL Server 2005 info on =
www.microsoft.com.

Rich

  "Ellen K."  wrote in message =
news:ea2o91dfssf3j9lidmatlbtiesa3io724b{at}4ax.com...
  I read that SS2005 will have failover in the version between the new
  Enterprise and the new Standard, do you know anything about that?

  On Mon, 30 May 2005 15:51:41 -0700, "Rich"  wrote in message
  :

  >   Failover too.  See =
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/adminsql/ad_clustering_7t9v.asp.
  >
  >Rich
  >=20
  >  "Ellen K."  wrote in message =
news:hi2n91ls9oid6pk6ltj4oiue65m9f9do3d{at}4ax.com...
  >  Well, but isn't clustering really for load balancing?  My SQL =
Servers
  >  barely break a sweat during the day.  (Besides which SQL Server =
2000
  >  requires Enterprise Edition for clustering, but can do replication =
with
  >  Standard... at a cost differential of about 4 to 1.)
  >
  >  On Mon, 30 May 2005 00:08:56 -0700, "Rich" 
wrote in message
  >  :
  >
  >  >   You should though there is clustering software for this purpose =
that would probably be more appropriate.
  >  >
  >  >Rich
  >  >
  >  >  "Ellen K."  wrote
in message =
news:jmpk91ps7mqev59btj3aan8o3hh9is5boc{at}4ax.com...
  >  >  Do you think I could use this for hot failover?   I.e. have a =
standby
  >  >  SQL Server box with the boot partition cloned and full =
transactional
  >  >  replication of the database and if the production box fails just =
change
  >  >  the IP address of the clone?
  >  >
  >  >  On Sun, 29 May 2005 00:54:56 -0700, "Rich"
 wrote in message
  >  >  :
  >  >
  >  >  >   Yes and Windows 2000 too.  What probably has gotten better =
are applications that register to be notified of network configuration =
changes and respond so that they don't need to be restarted.  =
NotifyAddrChange and NotifyRouteChange, two such APIs, were introduced = in
Windows 2000.
  >  >  >
  >  >  >   I'm curious why George had to reboot unless he was running a =
third party network service that did not include support for address = changes.
  >  >  >
  >  >  >Rich
  >  >  >
  >  >  >  "Ellen K." 
wrote in message =
news:bpmi915js372v2p66g453g1ogsrlmvlieg{at}4ax.com...
  >  >  >  Does that also apply to Server 2003?  Because that would =
solve one
  >  >  >  important issue I have at work.
  >  >  >
  >  >  >  On Sat, 28 May 2005 12:56:59 -0400, Mike N. =

  >  >  >  wrote in message =
:
  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >On Fri, 27 May 2005 16:47:16 -0400, "Geo." =
 wrote:
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >>Ok so how about listing some of the features you think =
makes XP worth
  >  >  >  >>upgrading to?
  >  >  >  >
  >  >  >  >  To me, just being able to change the IP address without =
rebooting makes
  >  >  >  >it worthwhile.  Sometimes 2000 would be able to do
this, but =
most of the
  >  >  >  >time I had to reboot.

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Rich
 

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  >  Do you think I could use this for hot
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  Sun, 29 May 2005 00:54:56 -0700, "Rich" <{at}> wrote in=20
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>   Yes and Windows 2000 =
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t;=20
  wrote in message news:bpmi915js37=
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  >  >  Does that also apply to Server
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  >  >> 
>  >  >On Fri, 27 May =
2005=20
  16:47:16 -0400, "Geo." <fake{at}barkdom.com>">mailto:fake{at}barkdom.com">fake{at}barkdom.com> =
wrote:> =20
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>>  >  > 
=
>>Ok so=20
  how about listing some of the features you think makes XP =
worth> =20
  >  >  >>upgrading
to?>  > =20
  >  >> 
>  >  >  To me, =
just=20
  being able to change the IP address without rebooting =
makes> =20
  >  >  >it worthwhile. 
Sometimes 2000 would be =
able to=20
  do this, but most of the>  > 
>  >time =
I had to=20
  reboot.

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