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to: Rich
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2005-05-24 19:40:48
subject: Re: jvm language limitations

From: Adam Flinton 

Rich wrote:
>    That depends on your requirements.
>
>    In your case it probably depends on your prejudices.

Nope.

> Just look at
> how often someone posts here a problem and you respond with how it
> should or could be addressed with your employer's java.

A) No I don't & (B) they're not my employer.

> Sometimes your
> suggestions are outright silly.
>

Ah how sweet. Some day you should emerge from your campus & try the real world.

Adam

> Rich
>
>
>     "Adam Flinton"      > wrote in message
>     news:429331da{at}w3.nls.net...
>     Paul Ranson wrote:
>      > I don't see a contradiction.
>      >
>
>     "Right tools" means what?
>
>     Right politically?
>     Right financially?
>     Right for the person suggesting it?
>     Right given existing systems?
>     Right for future proofing?
>     Right for the skills base your empoyees already have?
>     Right for the skills your employees want to learn?
>     Right for the decisions taken by a far off hq of the company of which
>     your company is but one division?
>
>     Most tooling can do most of what is required by most systems. I've done
>     Java/J2EE & C#/.net & the diffference is....????
>
>     Basically you're glueing people to transportable data (as an ML
>     (usually
>     XML)) fired as text over tcp via some std mechanism (e.g. http) to
>     something wot either puts stuff into or pulls stuff out of structured
>     storage (an SQL DB).
>
>     Delphi can do that, C++ can do that, Java can do that, C#/.Net can do
>     that, Python can do that, Perl can do that etc.etc.etc.
>
>     So it's never the right tool in the techie sense but always "do we want
>     to be bound hand & foot to MS"? Or to AIX/*ix?
or...or...or etc."
>     Followed by "what are the costs & risks?" etc.etc.
In there somewhere
>     there will be "I need something which can make me look good (as a
>     manager" (e.g. tight timescales etc)) vs another person's "I need
>     something which will look good on the CV & thus I want to try
the new &
>     hot".
>
>     The right tool for the task technically might be the wrong tool for the
>     task financialy or politically or in terms of skills (&/or aspirations
>     of skills)
>
>
>     etc.
>
>     Adam

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