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to: Rich
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2005-05-24 19:39:06
subject: Re: platform specific

From: Adam Flinton 

Rich wrote:
>    The interesting bits, the bits that provide a reason for your app to
> exist, are yours.  The support bits are just to save you time.
>

Yup & if you are writing for ease of maintainence, time to deliver etc
you write as little code as possible & reuse other people's code (via
libs or whatever) as much as possible.

Which is why J2EE, .Net, Xerces, Tomcat, Apache etc.etc.etc. exist.



Adam


> Rich
>
>
>     "Adam Flinton"      > wrote in message
>     news:4292f2da$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>     Rich wrote:
>      >    No.  Like using a support library or writing app specific
>     code.  If
>      > your app is nothing more than you tossing around buzzwords it is not
>      > much of an app.
>      >
>
>     Some day Rich they might tempt you down from your ivory tower with food
>     or a picture of Gate's butt & you might realise that the majority of
>     the
>     corp apps are there to create &/or manipulate existing data.
>
>     Till then gaze out across the fields where unicorns are skipping
>     hoof in
>     hand with elves & pixies.
>
>     Most apps load up a fair chucnk of "non local code"
wether it's an XML
>     parser or a db driver. If you look at many mnay many apps you might
>     well
>     have 100KB of local code & 20,000kb of suppling libs.
>
>     Now I accept maths may not be your strongest suit but if I had 1
>     apple &
>     I had 20 oranges one could say the majority of the fruit was oranges.
>
>     Anyone who writes any .net or java app has this in spades. In order to
>     host say an ASP.net page taking in XML & connecting to say Oracle, how
>     much code would be in my asp.net page vs how much in the "supporting
>     libs"?
>
>
>     Adam
>
>      > Rich
>      >
>      >
>      >     "Adam"      
>      >     > wrote in message
>      >     news:4291b06a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>      >     Rich wrote:
>      >
>      >      >    You need not in C++ either.  Plus, any app for which
>     most of your
>      >      > functionality comes from a support library is
probably not an
>      >      > interesting one.
>      >      >
>      >     What like say talking to a DBMS or using XML?
>      >
>      >     Or are you saying you should write your own SQL your own
>     Oracle/Db2 etc
>      >     driver & your own XML handling libs?
>      >
>      >     How about TCP protocol handling?
>      >
>      >     Adam

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