From: "Rich" 

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   Windows Desktop Search, the local search component of the MSN Search =
Toolbar, uses the same indexing technology and the same indexing =
components (IFilter implementations).  It indexes email which can = require
a user's logon credentials.  That said, I would like it to share = the
index.  What I do is I continue to use the index service for files = just
as I have for the past many years and use Windows Desktop Search = for
email.

Rich

  "Gregg N"  wrote in message =
news:42af4bf9{at}w3.nls.net...
  I agree, the way indexing service is connected to search companion is=20
  broken. It frequently ignores the indexing service even if it is =
enabled. It=20
  seems not to use it if at the time of the search there are files =
pending=20
  indexing.

  You can reliably use the indexing service by bypassing "search =
companion"=20
  altogether, directly accessing the indexing service. You can do this =
by=20
  right-clicking on "My Computer", selecting "Manage", and then =
navigating to

  Service and Applications
      Indexing Service
          System
              Query the Catalog

  This presents a form you can use to enter queries. This is actually =
very=20
  powerful if you are willing to use the query language syntax. To learn =
about=20
  this, don't bother clicking "Tips for searching" because the
"Query =
Syntax"=20
  button it presents is broken. Instead choose Help, Help Topics, and =
then=20
  open "Indexing Service" in the table of contents.

  I don't understand why the new MSN desktop search does not use this =
facility=20
  instead of implementing its own. The advantage of indexing service is =
that=20
  since it runs as a service it does not require anyone to be logged on =
to do=20
  indexing. Additionally, multiple users can share the same index.

  Gregg

  "John Beckett" 
wrote in message =

  news:42aeb66e.8309027{at}216.144.1.254...
  > Hands up everyone who knew that if you want to search for "widget" =
in all
  > your files using Windows Search, you should search for:
  >
  > !widget
  >
  > Note the initial screamer. This assumes you want a fast answer, so =
you
  > have enabled the indexing service.
  >
  > This is definitely the most stupid and poorly documented software =
decision
  > I have ever seen.
  >
  > Some useful info:
  > http://www.xpsearch.info/
  >
  > John
  >=20

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   Windows
Desktop Search, =
the local=20
search component of the MSN Search Toolbar, uses the same indexing = technology=20
and the same indexing components (IFilter implementations).  It = indexes=20
email which can require a user's logon credentials.  That
= said, I=20
would like it to share the index.  What I do is I continue to use
= the index=20
service for files just as I have for the past many years and use Windows = Desktop=20
Search for email.
 
Rich
 

  "Gregg N" <invalid{at}invalid.invalid>">mailto:invalid{at}invalid.invalid">invalid{at}invalid.invalid>
= wrote in=20
  message news:42af4bf9{at}w3.nls.net...I
= agree,=20
  the way indexing service is connected to search companion is =
broken. It=20
  frequently ignores the indexing service even if it is enabled. It =
seems=20
  not to use it if at the time of the search there are files pending=20
  indexing.You can reliably use the indexing
service by =
bypassing=20
  "search companion" altogether, directly accessing the
indexing =
service.=20
  You can do this by right-clicking on "My Computer", selecting =
"Manage",=20
  and then navigating toService and =
Applications   =20
  Indexing
Service       =20
  =
System          &nb=
sp;=20
  Query the CatalogThis presents a form you can use to enter =
queries.=20
  This is actually very powerful if you are willing to use the query =

  language syntax. To learn about this, don't bother clicking "Tips =
for=20
  searching" because the "Query Syntax" button it
presents is =
broken.=20
  Instead choose Help, Help Topics, and then open "Indexing
Service" =
in the=20
  table of contents.I don't understand why the new MSN desktop =
search=20
  does not use this facility instead of implementing its own. The =
advantage=20
  of indexing service is that since it runs as a service it does not =
require=20
  anyone to be logged on to do indexing. Additionally, multiple =
users can=20
  share the same
index.Gregg"John Beckett"
<FirstnameSurname{at}com=">mailto:FirstnameSurname{at}compuserve.com.omit">FirstnameSurname{at}com=
puserve.com.omit>=20
  wrote in message news:42aeb66e.8309027{at}216.14=
4.1.254...>=20
  Hands up everyone who knew that if you want to search for "widget" in=20
  all> your files using Windows Search, you should search=20
  for:>>
!widget>> Note the initial =
screamer. This=20
  assumes you want a fast answer, so you> have enabled the =
indexing=20
  service.>> This is definitely the most
stupid and poorly =

  documented software decision> I have ever
seen.>> =
Some=20
  useful info:> http://www.xpsearch.info/><" target="new">http://www.xpsearch.info/><=">http://www.xpsearch.info/">http://www.xpsearch.info/><=
BR>>=20
  John> 

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