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echo: nthelp
to: Glenn Meadows
from: Randy
date: 2005-06-25 09:35:48
subject: Re: ARGH!!! MSN/Windows Messenger

From: "Randy" 

MP3pro is an MP3 variant, which was supposed to have better low-bitrate
resolution. I found it underwhelming against WMA below 128 kbps.

"Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
news:42bccce5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Never heard of "MP3 Pro" format.  Where did you read that?
>
> --
>
> Glenn M.
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:42bc97f1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Thanks.  Did you see my question about MP3 Pro format versus MP3 and
>> MP4??
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
>> news:42bc8fa2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Haven't been able to test that yet, we're just starting to play with
>>> Video
>>> chat.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Glenn M.
>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>> news:42bc8eb1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> > Is it faster and less buggy than doing video chat than
MSN Messenger
>>> > and
>>> > the
>>> > others?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Gary
>>> >
>>> > P.S.  What's MP3 Pro and how is it better than MP3 and
worse than MP4
>>> > in
>>> > terms of quality for sound??
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Glenn Meadows" 
wrote in message
>>> > news:42bc8c47$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> >> Trillian has ZERO ads that flash at you, and if you
have contacts on
>>> >> multiple lists, it consolidates them all into one.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >> Glenn M.
>>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>> >> news:42bc4869{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> >> >I checked and Trillian Pro does do video chat.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > My wife and I only video chat with each other. 
We tried using
>>> > Netmeeting
>>> >> > for this purpose, but even with routers at both
ends set to DMZ, I
>>> >> > couldn't
>>> >> > get it to work both ways.  I could only get it
to work one way
>>> >> > only.
>>> >> > So
>>> >> > we
>>> >> > were forced to do one of the instant messengers.
 We tried Yahoo
>>> >> > but
>>> >> > its
>>> >> > software seemed a bit bloated and possibly
buggy.  We both needed
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > reinstall it more than once and the Yahoo
servers were often busy
>>> >> > and
>>> > hard
>>> >> > to connect through.  So now we've tried MSN
Messenger.  It seems a
>> bit
>>> >> > less
>>> >> > bloated not as buggy and haven't had as many
problems with their
>>> >> > servers
>>> >> > than we did with Yahoo.  However, its still
plenty bloated and
>>> >> > loaded
>>> > with
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > bunch of cutsie kid stuff.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > MSN Messenger is free, so before I pop for
Trillian tell me, if you
>>> > would,
>>> >> > why I should.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I know its operable with lots of messenger
clients, but that
>>> >> > feature
>>> > isn't
>>> >> > important to my situation.  Is Trillian less
bloated, faster, and
>>> >> > better
>>> >> > able to handle some older hardware than MSN
7.0???  Does Trillian
>>> >> > do
>> a
>>> >> > better job of synching up video and audio, etc.
during a video chat
>>> >> > session??
>>> >> >
>>> >> > How is Trillian able to get its client to work
with everyone else's
>>> >> > client,
>>> >> > but MSN, AIM, et al can't figure out how to do
this?  Or are the
>>> >> > instant
>>> >> > messenger wars been long over and I just missed it?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thoughts anyone?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Gary
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Chris"  wrote in message
>> news:42bc3d03$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> >> >> I know it will do audio, but not tried
video.  If you do, you
>>> >> >> *may*
>>> > need
>>> >> >> to upgrade to the "pro" version. 
Please check their website for
>>> > details
>>> >> >> and factual information as I have never tried it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> http://www.trillian.cc/
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> /Chris
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Gary Britt wrote:
>>> >> >> > Does Trillian do video and voice
conversations over the internet
>>> >> >> > between
>>> >> > two
>>> >> >> > computers?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Gary
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "Chris"
 wrote in message
>>> > news:42bb177e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>That's why I use Thunderbird.  It
has all the functionality I
>>> > need/want
>>> >> >> >>and none of the MS side-effects,
such as msn messenger.  I like
>>> >> >> >>trillian
>>> >> >> >>MUCH better.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>/Chris
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>Glenn Meadows wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>>OK, thanks.  What's odd, is that
it never started till after
>>> >> >> >>>yesterday,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > when
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>>I manually started it to do some
testing with a video
>>> >> >> >>>conference
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > thingie.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>>Now, the bloody things starts
everytime I start OE, even though
>>> >> >> >>>I've
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > turned
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>>off the Start Windows Messenger
when Windows starts...
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>Why do they make it so
hard.....>GRRR<
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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