On 12-27-97 Clarence Hogan wrote to John Boone...
Hello Clarence and thanks for writing,
CH> JB> However, as I pointed out to Clarence, when given, a
CH> JB> either or statement of either good or evil, and not good
CH> JB> leaves us with evil.
CH> Now just a cotton pickin bowl weevil hair minute!
CH> "NOT GOOD" absolutely does NOT leave anyone with EVIL!
Clarence as I tried pointing out to you several times,
before, there is a GIVEN, ASSUMPTION, which is
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when dealing with a -TRUE- either-or situation.
In this case, the assumption was that all humans
are either good or evil. BTW, I don't believe
this proposition to be true.
The logic went like this:
proposition #1: all humans are either good or bad
proposition #2: a human is not good
conclusion : a human is bad or evil
Such a conclusion is valid -only- when proposition #1
and number #2 are valid. As I pointed out, we were
-assuming- number one to true which in fact it isn't.
CH> Just because you are a "not good" or "bad" typist, does NOT
CH> mean that your are an "EVIL" typist, OR ARE YOU?
As I pointed out before, when there are more than
two classes such -LOGIC- falls (IOW, I agree such a
dichotomy can't be made). Before, you used
examples of animals. Let me see if I can help you
understand the difference.
In that example, you used and example of humans
versus non-humans:
proposition #1: all living creature are either humans or not
propostionn #2: this living creature is not a human
conclusion : therefore this living creature is a bird
As I pointed before, you were correct in pointing out that
such logic is faulty, I agree with you, but pointed out
the reason such a conclusion was faulty is it made a distinction
between non-humans.
However, let us look at the exact same two propositions but with
a different conclusion:
proposition #1: all living creatures are either human or not
propostionn #2: the living creature is not a human
conclusion : the living creature is not a human
Please notice, the conclusion is valid, provided both propistion
#1 and #2 are valid; in addition, please notice, the conclusion
doesn't make a distinction amoung non-humans.
Now getting back to your question,
Just because you are a "not good" or "bad" typist, does NOT
mean that your are an "EVIL" typist, OR ARE YOU?
You confuse the meaning of "bad typist" (pretaining to one's
ability to type) with the meaning of "evil typist" (not pretaining
to one's ability to type but rather one's nature). However, your
example does serve to show -why- such dichotomy logic falls or fails
when dealing with -MORE- than two classes.
I am afraid, this exhausts my ability within this arena
to explain to you -what- I had been attempting to express
that IMO it is not necessary within the Christian faith for
us know evil in order for us to do good, we only need to know
Christ. It was my understanding that it was your contention
that we must also know evil in order to know good.
Let me try to explain it using set theory. Are there any
Christ like acts that are not good? IMO, no, meaning all
Christ like acts get mapped or associated with good.
Please notice, this implies it is -sufficient- (please notice
this is different than saying it is -necessary-) only for us
to know Christ.
However, it says nothing about -other- acts (non-Christ like)
which may be -good- as well.
Take care,
Happy New Year!
John
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