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echo: nthelp
to: Mike N.
from: Mike `/m`
date: 2005-07-09 13:17:36
subject: Re: home page changing

From: Mike '/m' 

On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 12:59:37 -0400, Mike N.  wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:34:10 -0400, Mike '/m'  wrote:
>
>>>>I don't know if you should be so absolute.
>>>
>>>  ... with qualifiers of course: same level with Javascript enabled, etc.
>>
>>I still you are too absolute.   For example, in my quick reading of the
>>article, one of the exploits was to place a nicely formed windows over
>>the address bar of the browser, blocking out the address.  Opera would
>>open that window in a new tab.  There is also a checkbox in Opera's
>>config that says to always show the source URL of Javascript boxes, even
>>when the Javascript says otherwise.
>
> I was mostly thinking of older versions of IE such as on W2K and W98.
>Opera is probably gaining a small advantage just because hackers are
>developing attacks for Firefox and IE.
>
>   The latest Opera 8 occasionally ceases to function for me (hangs on
>reading site, doesn't even open a network connection.   Very hard to
>reproduce.)   But with Javascript enabled, Opera does repel invasive sites
>better than IE or Firefox.

Opera 8.00 should never have been released.  It was a festering collection
of non-deterministic crashes.

Opera 8.01 is a lot better, though it still has some problems.

Opera 8.02 was just released as a "Technology Preview" for the
built-in BitTorrent capability.  It treats BitTorrent files as just another
type of download.  I am still trying to decide if that is a good thing....

On the other hand, I do think that some areas of Opera are better than
either FireFox or IE with regards to helping the user understand what the
web page is doing to the system.

 /m

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