RW> senseless than they already are.  Is that radical?  Don't I have as 
RW> much right as you to break the law to advance my cause?
RB> Well, of course the difference is that you would not find
RB> anyone to go along  with your cause, and you would probably
RB> be arrested for the nut you are. On the 
RB> other hand, class issues is as fundamental as capitalism, a
RB> human current that  has spurred revolutions worldwide,
RB> social upheaval, and has a long and  dedicated tradition. 
So you feel the ends justify the means?  I take it you
don't support the government taking away your rights.
You feel that the FBI and IRS are two of the government
agencies that are racist and keeping the people, of all
races, down.  Then you must have stood up and cheered
when the bomb went off in OK City.  After all it was a
strike at "the man" trying to rally that people to
fight the governmental take over of our lives.  A few
dead people are nothing because the ends justify the
means.
My point is once you start saying that it is ok to go
out side the system and break laws because you are
working for the higher good then you have to allow it
to go all the way.
That and if it is ok for you to break the law because
you feel it is for the better good then you can't say
anything when the American Nazi Party or the Ku Klux
Klan break the law because THEY think what THEY are
doing is for the better good.  Remember for almost ever
person that thinks racism is a horrible thing there is
a person who thinks it is the best way of life.
RW> A lot more then you I bet!  How much money have you given to any 
RW> charitable organization?  How much time do you spend a week helping 
RB> just a little bit more." So does it make you feel better to
RB> contribute to a  charity? That middle-class guilt can be
To me it is a religious requirement as well as a
personal thing.
RB> absolved if you just give to our  charity! I really don't
Sorry I have no guilt.  I have a little envy of the
people who have reached a level that I haven't yet.
The people I see driving nice cars and taking spring
break in the Bahamas.  I have nothing to do with where
someone is born or what they do with their lives.  I
came from a low to lower middle class background and
could "out poor" a lot of people because my family
never turned to the government for help.  I can still
remember when I was a kid my dad having to give the
druggist his watch to hold until pay day to get
medicine for my sister.
RB> want to get into a "who's-more-involved" discussion,  but
Not the point.  I was just wondering if you put your
back where your mouth was.  Very few people do.  I tip
my hat to you.  I may disagree with you but I respect
anyone who is willing to work for what he believes in
(even when its wrong )
RW> You scream about classism but I bet during these "demos" you took the 
RW> time to yell at the working class guys wearing the police uniforms.
RB> Most of the demos I can think of are AGAINST police
RB> brutality, so yes. The  police are working class, but their
RB> history of systematic bias against the  lower class, as well
You have stated that the lower class has a greater
percentage of criminals.  If a large number of the
horses you came into contact with kicked you wouldn't
you treat every horse as a possible kicker?  Even
Jessie Jackson has said that if he is walking down a
dark street and hears people behind him he is more
comfortable if he sees that it is three white teens
then if it is three black teens behind him.  Now is
Jessie a racist?  Does he have a "history of systematic
bias against" blacks?  Or does he just know the crime
numbers concerning the number of crimes committed by
blacks vs whites.  (And now I don't have a reference
for the statement.  But I seem to remember it was in an
interview for a major magazine.  One of the ways I save
money is by not buying magazines but reading them at
the library.)
RB> as their universal function as strikebreakers, as well as 
Could that be because either the strike was illegal or
the strikers were breaking the law?  During the UPS
strike
RB> their corruption, make them an enemy of the lower classes.
Any organization of any size is going to have corrupt
individual in it.  Look into the history of them and
you will find a black sheep.  Should all religious
leaders be considered corrupt because of a few high
profile cases?  Should the Catholic church be
dismantled and its ashes thrown to the wind because of
a small percentage of priest?  Or should we look at the
organization as a hole before we judge it?
                      Remember:  Freedom isn't Free!
--- timEd-B11
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