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to: Robert Comer
from: Ellen K
date: 2005-07-27 23:14:26
subject: Re: must have upgrade

They sounded like they had a really good time recording it.   :)

> From: "Robert Comer" 
> Yep, that's a pretty good song.
> There's a lot of good songs on the country stations right now...
> - Bob Comer
> "Ellen K"  wrote in message
> news:d09c62.fa8445{at}harborwebs.com...
>> I accidently heard "It's 5:00 O'Clock Somewhere" and
have to say I really
>> liked
>> it.   :)
>> 
>>> From: "Robert Comer" 
>>> Ewwwwww, for you to say something like that...
>>> Even I have noticed the degrade in quality in pop radio -- I always
>>> listened
>>> to it because it at least changed some with the times and there was new
>>> material out there, but in the last couple of years I'm having an awful
>>> time
>>> with it, it's either same-o stuff done worse, or it's sampling up the
>>> wazoo,
>>> neither new, nor interesting. :(
>>> I've even stooped low enough to start listening to country stations to
>>> get
>>> away from it.  (Yes, I have no doubt they do the same, but at least it's
>>> new
>>> to me.)
>>> - Bob Comer
>>> "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
>>> news:42e63343{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> And that's really the tip of the iceberg my friends....
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Glenn M.
>>>> "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
>>>> news:npsae192rhsgcm8mfkvusn7m22f24a4ro2{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>> Radio sucks around here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's one reason why:
>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163537,00.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> ===
>>>>> I always say when people ask me that the so-called
vipers of the movie
>>>>> business would not last a day in the record business. Now Eliot
>>>>> Spitzer's office has decided to prove the point.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Please be advised that in this week's Jennifer
Lopez Top 40 Spin
>>>>> Increase of 236 we bought 63 spins at a cost of $3,600."
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Please be advised that in this week's Good
Charlotte Top 40 Spin
>>>>> Increase of 61 we bought approximately 250 spins at a
cost of $17K ."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ironically, it didn't help, as the memo notes that the
company actually
>>>>> lost spins - or plays of the record - even though they
laid out money
>>>>> for them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> See above: The internal memos from Sony Music,
revealed today in the
>>>>> New
>>>>> York state attorney general's investigation of payola
at the company,
>>>>> will be mind blowing to those who are not so jaded to
think records are
>>>>> played on the radio because they're good. We've all
known for a long
>>>>> time that contemporary pop music stinks. We hear
"hits" on the radio
>>>>> and
>>>>> wonder, "How can this be?"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now we know. And memos from both Sony's Columbia and
Epic Records
>>>>> senior
>>>>> vice presidents of promotions circa 2002-2003 - whose names are
>>>>> redacted
>>>>> in the reports but are well known in the industry -
spell out who to
>>>>> pay
>>>>> and what to pay them in order to get the company's
records on the air.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From Epic, home of J-Lo, a memo from Nov. 12, 2002, a
"rate" card that
>>>>> shows radio stations in the Top 23 markets will
receive $1000, Markets
>>>>> 23-100 get $800, lower markets $500. "If a record
receives less than 75
>>>>> spins at any given radio station, we will not pay the
full rate," the
>>>>> memo to DJs states. "We look forward to breaking
many records together
>>>>> in the future."
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> ===
>>>>> 
>>>>> /m
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:08:00 -0400, Mike '/m'
 wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:12:28 -0400, Gregg N

>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike '/m' wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ~$350 for the iPod kit, or $700 for the
6-CD changer option -- it
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> easy decision.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> /m
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I chose the third option, which is to have
neither. For me, it would
>>>>>>> cost $350 + $300 = $650, because I don't
currently own an ipod. Plus,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am reluctant to have the kit installed because
I understand it
>>>>>>> involves
>>>>>>> taking apart the dashboard to some extent. I
don't know if I trust
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> dealership to do that without screwing something up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does it take up much space in the glovebox?
Did they have to cut a
>>>>>>> hole
>>>>>>> anywhere?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> re: cost - that is your choice.  Radio sucks
around here.  The good
>>>>>> stations (college stations) are fairly
low-poewered and quickly fade
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the hills.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The dealership I used is most excellent.  I have
been going there
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> 1984. (they used to sell Mazdas also, the current
car is the first BMW
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> bought from them).  From the looks of things, they
may have removed
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> glove box, I don't see the need to remove part of
the dashboard.  But
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> they did, it's fine now.  You are correct, if
dashboard removal is
>>>>>> involved, you need to have confidence in your dealer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the glove box, all you have is a wire with a
connector on it that
>>>>>> plugs into the bottom of the iPod.  So the space
taken up in the glove
>>>>>> box consists of the iPod and the wire, which for
all intents and
>>>>>> purposes means the space taken up by the iPod.  
Once you connect the
>>>>>> iPod, the display shows only "BMW" and
the controls don't work, so
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is no temptation to look at the song that is
playing or use the iPOd
>>>>>> controls while you are driving.  Probably done to
keep the lawyers
>>>>>> happy.  iPod battery is charged whilst connected.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the top back left of the glove box it looks
like a 1/4 inch hole
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> drilled for the wire to go through.  A rubber
grommet was put in the
>>>>>> hole.  A very clean installation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I would really like to do, and I had started
to design the system
>>>>>> before I found out about the iPod option, was to
place a ruggedized PC
>>>>>> in the car, and feed its audio output into the car
stereo.  When the
>>>>>> car
>>>>>> is in the garage, the PC would be a part of my
home wireless network,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> I would be able to move music back and forth easily.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /m
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 

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