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echo: oldcars
to: ALEXANDER BILAN
from: ROY WITT
date: 1997-08-24 18:44:00
subject: emmisions

23 Aug 97 13:53, Puleeeeze Brer Alexander Bilan, Dooooon't trow emmisions in 
dat der Briar Patch!
 AB>  Well Roy, after all that talk about smog cops and emmisions tests...
 AB> Its arrived..  mixed feelings on this topic obviously. Points gleened
 AB> from todays newspaper give a max test price of $30. Subsequent tests
 AB> for a failed vehicle will be $15.
Like here, you'll find that there will be offers of cheaper tests.  Watch for 
the bait and switch.  They will fail your car, 9 out of 10.  Take it to 
somebody you trust.
 AB>   During the first two years of the program a $200 cap on repair
 AB> fees to bring the vehicle into smog limits, after that, no upper
 AB> limit!  Testing every two years. Next year will see two cities fall
 AB> victem to smog checks, and mine will see it come the year 2000.
 AB> Rural areas will not be affected. Yet.
That's kinda like here when it first started.  If you lived in suberbia, you 
were amongst the first to smog check.  There are still places east of the 
mountain in the desert that still don't smog check.
 AB>  And our capitol city of beurocrats will also not see any smog
 AB> checking (, lets make it difficult for these bill passers
 AB> eh?)
Start a protest movement.
 AB>  About the only good point reported is vehicles 4 to 19 years
 AB> old will be tested.  Safe on two vehicles still. And the truck,
 AB> well, I'm glad I'm all for propane as a motor fuel... (got a mixer!)
 AB> =-)
I wouldn't worry about it.  Unless you've removed some of the smog 
devices...:)
 AB> And if 19 years applies when smog check hits this city, I've only
 AB> got to suffer through one smog check on the truck.
By then they'll change it to every car and truck, 4 to 25 years...
 AB> And on smog cops, from the paper; "...the province also plans to use
 AB> smog police to spot check vehicles. Teams of provincial officers
 AB> will troll Ontarios highways to nab the worst polluters on the road
 AB> when the program starts next year. Trucks & busses from other
 AB> provinces and the U.S. will also face fines if they fail to pass
 AB> on-road spot checks."
I wouldn't worry about this either.  Unless your cars spew excessive blue 
smoke from the exhaust.  You'd be surprised at how many cars got cleaned up 
or removed from the highways here (1970's).  It's very rare to see a smoking 
exhaust car nowadays.  When you do, there's always someone writing down the 
license plate and calling 1-800-SMOKING...
 AB>  -Other than commercial vehicles liscenced in their home state and
 AB> here, how could they possibly enforce smog checks for vehicles not
 AB> even registered here!?
If you're from out of state/country here with a smoking vehicle, it gets 
impounded.  Poor Mexicans can't afford to drive across the border.
 AB>  Same goes for private vehicles, and will they be bothering
 AB> those of us with exempt vehicles cause it registers on their troll
 AB> mobiles?
I don't know.  Here, they will, if it's polluting.  Otherwise, it doesn't 
need to be smog checked and you're on your own. In California, a vehicle 
isn't exempt unless it was made in 1965 or earlier.  A lot of guys I know are 
buying them up, hoping to get by without being hassled.  There's also 
legislation in Sacramento to change exemption to 25 years or older. So far it 
hasn't gotten to the Governor, who has the last say...
 AB>  I can see any number of flaws in this, and I'm only glad I'm
 AB> not part of the initially affected cities, this is going to get very
 AB> messy.
It'l grow on you...:)  Frankly, I enjoy the clean air.  Smog in California 
was at it's worst in the 70's.. Back then we had 30-40 days a year of 
dangerous smog days.  Now we have 3 or 4...
... I just bought a cured ham.  Wonder what it had?
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