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to: Geo
from: Hrvoje Mesing
date: 2005-08-10 19:09:40
subject: Re: monad virus

From: "Hrvoje Mesing" 


"Geo"  wrote in message
news:42f93493$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> "John Beckett" 
wrote in message
> news:6g3hf1l80297u6uknf1o5j8va4akcj7vof{at}4ax.com...
>
>
>> This works on all *.bat and *.cmd files under the target folder.
>> If you set target=C:\ it will do all of C: drive (not tested:-).
>
> I don't know enough about the differences between cmd.exe and monad shell
> but it seems to me that since monad is being designed to make it easier
> for
> admins to script stuff that it's got a lot more potential to be virus
> friendly, no? I look at his code and I don't know everything it's doing so
> I
> can't compare it to what you were doing but I'll take your point that you
> can write a self replicating script in a .bat file.
>
> What I do know is the guy likes writing virus and seems pretty excited
> about
> the new capabilities. It should be obvious to anyone at that point that a
> new infection target has now been pointed out and before it's released and
> a
> million scripts which will force future versions to be backwards
> compatible
> are written some additional consideration for security and virus
> prevention
> should be put into it.
>
> And for pete's sake, keep the IE team the hell away from it.


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I think that scripting in "monad" is everything then simplier
then scripting plain *.cmd.
Still, if You get used to it, it is becoming like:
Fast-Ninja-GetItDoneInASecond-IFinallyHaveAPower tool :)
+ when You combine Objects-Nice CmdLets and WMI, You get something
beautifle.

In real production life I'm using VBScript for everything, but
"monad", when used to it is Dramatically Faster! (!!!).

- I hate that new Vista build have plain and old cmd.exe - still, saw that
few commands are extended! - my bow!
- I pray that "monad" will have remoting (!!!) and maybe (I hope) something
that will give it an easy screen capabillity.

- I used IE7 Beta1 for a little, found that You cannot move the Upper
Address bar on any other place from the Top of the screen (WTF ?!)
- Download Dialog is still crappy with no pause/r., adv. futures (still,
maybe someone will write the extension ?! - WHICH Should be Signald on
MarketPlace! btw. - as any other Windows, Shell, Explorer, IE, mmc Plugin,
etc.!!!)
- It uses 20MB with one blank tab opened, 7MB when minimized and 36MB of
VM - this is way too much!
- You can Uninstall it :)))) :p
- did not test Phishsing plugin - there is Must "send alert to microsoft
when you come across potential phishing web page" if You want it enabled.

etc., etc.


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M.

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