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to: Geo.
from: Rich
date: 2005-09-14 17:43:50
subject: Re: firewall configuration

From: "Rich" 

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   Depending on what you believe the purpose of activation you may be =
right.

   As for being secure, that isn't the discussion here or if you think =
it is you are being a fool.  If you have malware running it can do what =
you can do.  If you don't want it to change something that an admin is =
intended to change then do not run as an admin.  Better still, don't run =
malware.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:432858e3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Gee you make it sound so easy, if the admin owns the machine then =
activation is doomed to failure. Or is there some point to this "more
= tedious"?

  I guess the users' firewall doesn't need to be as secure as the copy =
protection, huh?

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:432844cb{at}w3.nls.net...
       You can't keep out the admin for several reasons.  You can make =
it more tedious but it would be nothing more than window dressing.  The =
admin owns the machine.  Also, if there is any UI to allow a user to =
configure the software, which clearly needs to exist, then there by =
definition is a means to make changes.

       Basically, if malware is already running on a system it can do =
whatever the user account under which it is running can do.

    Rich

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"Geo." <fake{at}barkdom.com>=20">mailto:fake{at}barkdom.com">fake{at}barkdom.com>=20 wrote in message news:432858e3$1{at}w3.nls.net... Gee you make it sound so easy, if the = admin owns=20 the machine then activation is doomed to failure. Or is there = some=20 point to this "more tedious"? I guess the users' = firewall doesn't need to=20 be as secure as the copy protection, huh? Geo.
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