Chris Roedocker@1:213/742 ... 04.06.97
>  My opinon is simple.  How would you lie it if you were chained on a clif
>  and something scared you?  Fall off the clif (mabey about 10ft not really
>  that dangerous) and you broke your leg?
You cannot compare 1,80 m human with a 0,30 m animal. See child fall to  
the ground and an elderly man or woman...
Parrots are so light, they effectively do not break a leg when flying off,  
leashed, and the keeper's reaction is well.
[cold weather]
>  Parrots can adapt yes, but it is still not a good idea to do it.
Yep.
But consequently it would be not a good idea to take them to other  
countries like USA, Germany and so on.
As we do so, we should let them adapt to our weather.
KB>> What would YOU say, if "mars men" would attack the earth and would
KB>> catch you and cut off your legs? You'd live a happy life???
>  Exuse me? One simple difference, bird feathers grow back, legs do not.
*But you will clip again* after the moult, won't you?
By the way: there have been instances where amazons began to pluck their  
feathers after wing clipping! Clipping must be frustrating if the animal  
has been accustomed to flying a lot.
KB>> Budgies and parakeets never are to clip. When to clip, then a big
KB>> parrot. But to clip is out!!!
>  I think budgies are OK to clip.
As far as I know, in Germany the clipping of budgies is not used at all!
The reasons:
Budgies can fly free in the living room without danger of pushing things  
down. They also cannot destroy furniture like bigger parrots do.
>  > Parrots are like children
KB>> Parrots are animals, no children.
> I consider all of my birds family and they are all my children
Don't you (mis-) use your birds as children ersatz?
KB>>> no one should sentence about the other,
> Mabe not but still we can't let people abuse their animals.
The person who points an outraged finger at other parrot keepers should  
remember that four fingers of his hand are pointing back at him.
> We can't just let birds be mistreated like that! Plain and simple!
And we shall admit when you clip budgies?
Do you also clip flys, bugs and bees? To let them crabble on your  
shoulder?
> I'm sure that your bird needs some avacado and cola about now!
:-(                   How can you mean this???
Just those persons who keep parrots as children give them human food and  
drinks! Not me.
> Chris Roedocker
The name Chris is in Germany used male and female (Christian /  
Christiane).
May I ask you what you are?
>  The Bird-Brained BBS
;-)         Birds have small brains...
> PS: If you want me to give you my full opinons write me E-Mail,  I don't
> want to step on any Moderator's toes.
I don't think that Kathy has anything against our thread, as long as it is  
on topic.
With your opinion you only step on my toes. ;-)
have a nice day
    klAUS!
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