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echo: educator
to: MATT SMITH
from: CHARLES BEAMS
date: 1996-07-06 11:28:00
subject: Re: Class Size Over-Rate

Quotes are taken from a message written by Matt to Charles on 06/27/96...
MS>My father was a professor for 25+ years.
MS>I just cited his own observations, shared by many of his colleagues, 
MS>about "discipline problems" in college teaching...some of 
MS>which I saw myself as a student.  
MS>Is that "ignorance"?
Our neighbor recently built a shed in his backyard.  I talked to him 
about it extensively, and also sought the opinions of several other 
neighbors who watched the progress of the construction.  I stood and 
watched as he did some of the work.  Do you think I am now prepared to 
build my own 4-bedroom home?
The analogy I have drawn is similar to the one you have drawn - that by 
merely watching and listening, but never having done any construction, 
and my knowledge based on only one level of construction, I am now an 
expert on all levels of construction.
I do not know the educational process in the south, and I assume there 
are some differences between education in the south and education in the 
north, but based on my experiences with the K-12 educational system, I 
would venture a guess that you are more ignorant about what goes on in 
schools than most people I know.  I don't mean to be insulting - I am 
probably as ignorant of the legal aspects of collecting debts - but many 
of your comments are so out of touch with what goes on in the public 
schools here that they are laughable.  That is why I seldom respond to 
your comments - they usually don't even make sense.
On top of the problem I (and others who have complained as well) have 
with your ignorance of the system, the issue is complicated by your 
writing style.  Whether you intend it or not, you speak with a sense of 
superiority that demeans the rest of us.  The issue I raised and to 
which you responded was, is Matt really as ignorant as he appears, or 
does he write as he does on purpose so as to generate conversation, 
idiotic though it often is?
I do believe the question is fair, as posed.  Please note...I will most 
likely end my participation in this conversation here.  Discussing most 
any issue with you turns out to be an invitation to get thrashed, to get 
insulted, or to have to face more ridiculous pronouncements.
Chuck Beams
Fidonet - 1:2608/70
cbeams@future.dreamscape.com
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