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to: Ellen K.
from: Robert Comer
date: 2005-08-29 22:45:32
subject: Re: `sleep mode`?

From: "Robert Comer" 

>I have some weirdo NIC in my home Dell that has WOL.  Don't remember if
> it defaults to on or off, but I made sure it was off.

I always turn it off too, and even usually remove the cable if there is
one. Not that I hate WOL, but with my usage pattern it's pretty useless.

- Bob Comer


"Ellen K."  wrote in message
news:d0d7h1t9iprfo87si3ogor3kfqdhfucskr{at}4ax.com...
>I have some weirdo NIC in my home Dell that has WOL.  Don't remember if
> it defaults to on or off, but I made sure it was off.
>
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:22:57 -0400, "Robert Comer"
>  wrote in message
> :
>
>>> "WOL" means "wake on LAN"?
>>
>>Yep.  Not all PC's have WOL adapters, and the bios of the PC has to
>>understand it and have the option set to on.
>>
>>> And the tech probably said it was in sleep mode to cover up for
>>> whichever friend of his was responsible for plugging everything back in
>>> after the maintenance was completed.
>>>
>>> 
>>
>>Could be, but it is possible that he was telling the truth.
>>
>>> It's getting so I should send the users a message when the {at}#$% reports
>>> are going to be on time, instead of when they're going to be late...
>>> this is like the 5th week in a row something's happened.
>>>
>>> 
>>
>>I feel your pain!
>>
>>- Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>>news:51j6h1h6st3gnhsoihnru6kami8ekbhgek{at}4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:27:14 -0400, "Robert Comer"
>>>  wrote in message
>>> :
>>>
>>>>> 1.  One of the first things I always do with a new box
is disable
>>>>> anything resembling "power management"; I
distinctly remember doing
>>>>> that
>>>>> on the reporting box.
>>>>
>>>>It's possible some fix, (or operator) changes those settings, though
>>>>sleep
>>>>isn't a normal server default!
>>>
>>> It's not a server, just a desktop, but it lives in the server room in
>>> order to be connected to the giant UPS.
>>>>
>>>>> 2.  Windows TaskScheduler was supposed to start the reporting
>>>>> application at 5:15 (instead of the normal 1:00
because they took down
>>>>> the whole network last night to do the upgrades for
our new system),
>>>>> but
>>>>> it never started.  If the box was sleeping, wouldn't
TaskScheduler
>>>>> wake
>>>>> it up?
>>>>
>>>>Only if the task is set to wake the computer, and that's not the
>>>>default.
>>>>
>>> Well, this is good to know for the future, thanks.   :)
>>>
>>>>> 3.  Wouldn't receiving a ping attempt also wake up the
box?  And/or
>>>>> does
>>>>> the box need to be awake for a ping attempt to succeed?
>>>>
>>>>Only if WOL is active will it wake up and it wouldn't wake up fast
>>>>enough
>>>>to
>>>>respond to a ping. (just guessing, I don't use WOL for anything.)
>>>
>>> "WOL" means "wake on LAN"?
>>>
>>> Well, but also I tried pinging it again about 15 minutes later, so if
>>> the first attempt had woken it it would have been there for the second
>>> one.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My suspicion is that they turned it off or unplugged it or
>>>>> disconnected
>>>>> it from the network last night in the course of the systems
>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>
>>>>Given the timing, that's highly likely.
>>>>
>>> And the tech probably said it was in sleep mode to cover up for
>>> whichever friend of his was responsible for plugging everything back in
>>> after the maintenance was completed.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> It's getting so I should send the users a message when the {at}#$% reports
>>> are going to be on time, instead of when they're going to be late...
>>> this is like the 5th week in a row something's happened.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>>- Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ellen K." 
wrote in message
>>>>news:ahc6h1956l3q04htf9q8l32o61rint33uo{at}4ax.com...
>>>>> This morning I could not access the machine that runs our weekly
>>>>> reports
>>>>> by pcAnywhere.  I could access my desktop and from the
desktop could
>>>>> not
>>>>> ping the reporting box by either IP address or name. 
Pinging by name
>>>>> did return the expected IP address.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the tech finally got there and checked it out, he
told me the box
>>>>> had been in sleep mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> This doesn't pass the smell test for the following reasons:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.  One of the first things I always do with a new box
is disable
>>>>> anything resembling "power management"; I
distinctly remember doing
>>>>> that
>>>>> on the reporting box.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.  Windows TaskScheduler was supposed to start the reporting
>>>>> application at 5:15 (instead of the normal 1:00
because they took down
>>>>> the whole network last night to do the upgrades for
our new system),
>>>>> but
>>>>> it never started.  If the box was sleeping, wouldn't
TaskScheduler
>>>>> wake
>>>>> it up?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.  Wouldn't receiving a ping attempt also wake up the
box?  And/or
>>>>> does
>>>>> the box need to be awake for a ping attempt to succeed?
>>>>>
>>>>> My suspicion is that they turned it off or unplugged it or
>>>>> disconnected
>>>>> it from the network last night in the course of the systems
>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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