> JP :>    She made it 1/4 way 'round in the pen (at a
 > walk no
 > JP :>less) and all of a sudden she started to buck
 > .... I want
 > JP :>to tell you she would have made a good rodeo
 > horse look bad
 > Hmmm...you only had her halter on?  Would she have
 > done this with a bridle? Fiddle will sometimes think
 > it's playtime when she only is lunged with a halter.
 > But she usually behaves when she's fully tacked up.
 > Has she done this before?  If not, then maybe it was a
 > bad spook, or a bee  or something?
 > Whatever it was, it doesn't sound nice!  Phew!
    I have no idea what in the world spooked her -- everything was the same.  
I always lunge first in her halter -- then put on her bridle and lunge a 
little more.  Nothing had changed -- that's what was so strange  .....
 > JP :>minute.  As it was, she did stand still and calm
 > to my
 > JP :>voice cooing to her.  After she was totally calm,
 > we
 > JP :>started around the pen again on the lunge line
 > and she was
 > JP :>good as gold.
 > I have noticed with some horses that once they "get
 > going" like that, they scare themselves to death.
    That's it ...... she was certainly scared to death and I couldn't figure 
out what had started her off in the first place.
 > It's almost like a chain reaction...they start
 > running/bucking, get scared, run/buck some more/ get
 > more scared/ run/buck more/ get paniced, etc.  Sounds
 > like that's what happened here.  And, I don't have a
 > clue as to what to do about it.  Wish I did, Jean.
 > Only thing I can suggest is short, easy trips around
 > the pen on the lunge.  If she looks like she's going
 > to get nervous, stop, pat her, then send her out at a
 > walk again.  However, if she explodes on you like that
 > with no obvious reason, then I don't know what you do.
    That's exactly what I've been doing -- slow and easy. I've decided that 
I'm NOT going to ride her ..... haven't decided what else to do though at 
this point ..... maybe she'd made a good brood mare ..... who knows.
    Speaking of a brood mare -- would you believe that X mounted her the 
other day ........ Now THAT was a cute trick as he has these "knobby" type 
shoes on to help keep him from sliding around on the pavement -- his shoes 
caught PATTI's back and made a DEEP gash (more hide than anything else but 
you can certainly see where it happend (and how).  Now I suppose I'll have to 
either do something else about his shoes, OR keep them separated when she 
comes in heat.
(And, BTW, she wasn't in heat when she did all this stupid bucking stuff she 
did so that's not why she did what she did).
    As far as I know he's never tried that before ..... (or
maybe he has and we just didn't see him do it).  We THINK he's been gelded 
...... but ........ now I'm wondering as he drops down where the girls are in 
heat - and it's getting more and more prounced (if you know what I mean).  
He's 5 now (June of 1992 - that does make him a 5 yr old, doesn't it??)
    I know we talked before about him maybe just not dropping (I also know 
that you or someone here gave me the proper name for it but I've forgotten 
what it is).  The vet told me they "couldn't feel anything" ..... but I think 
that the only way you would really know is with a x-ray .... maybe I'll talk 
with our vet again about it.
   > JP :>    She's dangerous, Meg ...... I know it and I'm
 > really
 > JP :>very careful with  her.  I don't think I'm going
 > to ride
 > JP :>her.  I'll work her on the lunge line and that's
 > it.
 > Somehow, I don't blame you.  However, be aware that
 > some horses figure out real quick when they've scared
 > you, and then learn that scaring you means the end of
 > whatever work they were expected to do.  Don't let her
    No ....... she doesn't scare me when I'm on the ground with her .... 
she's tried all the imtimidation routines she knows on me -- didn't work.  
When she does something stupid I calm her down and then we go back to work.  
I was finally gettting ready to ride her again when she "exploded" ..... SHE 
didn't know at that point I was going to get on her -- I wasn't even too sure 
.
 > get your goat!  Shiloh has a tendency to do
 > this...she'll spook (a little hop is all) on occasion,
 > and then figures she'll be done for the day.  We're
 > working on coming to an understanding about that (g).
 > I think her former owner was a real yahoo!  And I
 > think that once they got her revved up, they got
 > scared and just put her away for the day.  Now she
 > thinks that if she does something to make her rider
 > nervous, she'll be able to quit.  Aha!  No such luck,
    Yes, they'll all do that from time to time -- even good natured Mr X will 
"try" me from time to time..... never works though -- they don't get out of 
work THAT easy 
 > little Ms. Appy!  Not at my barn (g)!  The mind of a
 > horse is a terrible thing.......
    Like little 2 yr olds (terrible twos ).
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