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to: Rich
from: Geo
date: 2005-08-14 19:35:58
subject: Re: killing a process

From: "Geo" 

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That makes a lot of sense for a normally running process, but if the =
process is screwed up or hogging the cpu, then things probably aren't =
working properly anyway so I'm not sure that would hold true in those =
cases where you need to terminate something.

The only case where I use it on a process that isn't screwed up is with =
smtp on a busy server. In that case a normal shutdown can take quite a =
few minutes which is just an unacceptable downtime for smtp so I use = kill
to get in shut down and started back up in just a few seconds. It's =
possible this could corrupt an email but that's better than having =
hundreds of people start calling because they can't use email.

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:42ffc164$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Killing doesn't allow a process to terminate gracefully.  Buffers =
may not be flushed.  Other processes with which it communicates may not =
get appropriate notice.  When you select end task from the applications =
tab it will send the app the appropriate notice for a graceful shutdown. =
 If you terminate the process from the processes tab you get an =
ungraceful termination.  NET STOP sends the graceful notice appropriate =
for services.

  Rich

    "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:42ff87b1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I would guess net stop works fine for a test case, but usually I =
only kill processes that are hung and not responding, in those cases net =
stop is probably too polite.

    Why would you not just kill a process?

    Geo.
      "Rich"  wrote in message news:42ff743c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
         I would do neither.  Have you tried "net stop spooler"?

      Rich

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That makes a lot of sense for a =
normally running=20
process, but if the process is screwed up or hogging the cpu, then = things=20
probably aren't working properly anyway so I'm not sure that would hold = true in=20
those cases where you need to terminate something.
 
The only case where I use it on a =
process that=20
isn't screwed up is with smtp on a busy server. In that case a normal = shutdown=20
can take quite a few minutes which is just an unacceptable downtime for = smtp so=20
I use kill to get in shut down and started back up in just a few = seconds. It's=20
possible this could corrupt an email but that's better than having = hundreds of=20
people start calling because they can't use email.
 
Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ffc164$1{at}w3.nls.net... Killing doesn't allow a = process to=20 terminate gracefully. Buffers may not be flushed. Other = processes=20 with which it communicates may not get appropriate notice. When = you=20 select end task from the applications tab it will send the app the = appropriate=20 notice for a graceful shutdown. If you terminate the process = from the=20 processes tab you get an ungraceful termination. NET STOP sends = the=20 graceful notice appropriate for services. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20 wrote in message news:42ff87b1$1{at}w3.nls.net... I would guess net stop works fine = for a test=20 case, but usually I only kill processes that are hung and not = responding, in=20 those cases net stop is probably too polite. Why would you not just kill a=20 process? Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ff743c$1{at}w3.nls.net... I would do = neither. Have=20 you tried "net stop spooler"? Rich ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C5A107.657BEAB0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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