-=> Quoting Klaus Bosch to Chris Roedocker <=-
 KB> I have read the mail of Kathy with a sort of inner smile. OF COURSE
 KB> she   was ennoyed, and the told situation with the parrot was not the
 KB> best. But what you wrote is also worth of having a critical look on:
 
 > do-nots I have ever heard: giving choclate,
 KB> is wrong, I agree
 > leg chain,
 KB> o - may be possible! (in special cases)
 NOT!  A simple scare and opps!  Broken leg!  Leg chains are dangerous!  
 plain and simple!
 
 >cold wheather.
 KB> how cold? is the question. Some Parrots live in nature in cold
 KB> habitats. 
 From the story it is Montana?  Any way it is far north in America.  Cold
 blistery days aren't good!
 > I will take a bird out if 1) it's cliped
 KB> :-( That's bad, too, my dear! IMHO at least as bad as leg bands.
 KB> (A legbanded bird can be kept at other times (when not on a walk with
 KB> the   owner) free in an aviary, able to fly -  a clipped one can't fly
 KB> - and   flying is what birds want to do.)
 If it's not cliped I won't take it out!  A leg chain on a uncliped bird is
 just waiting to get a broken leg!  Parrots can live happy lives without the
 ablity to fly.  It all depends on the invidual bird.  Most aren't depressed
 unless you don't give them attention then they can be a bit undealable.
 
 >2)dosn't scare
 KB> correct.
 > 3)not crowded
 KB> okay.
 >4)good weather.
 KB> What do you meanw with "good"? Hot sun is e. g. not regularly "good  
 KB> weather" for parrots, esp. for those from the rain forest, which is a
 KB> dark   and shady place. Those parrots dislike direct sun beams on their
 Good weather is aprox 70 to 85 degrees.  Not hot.  Shade avail at all times
 lots of water. The ones in the rainforests get a lot of sun!  The also have
 a lot shade avail.
 
 KB> body (for   longer time). I have seen many parrot keepers, who did not
 KB> know this and   put their caged bird the whole afternoon into the
 KB> burning sun. (Plus   giving him a strong shower before that. Bird wet
 KB> upto the skin. Later he   was ill.) But it happened by chance, not
 KB> because the keeper was a bad   human.
 Oh, so if I were to put my budgie next to a untrained cat and my budgie is
 clipped and my budgie is eaten it isn't my fault!  Parrots are like children
 we have to take care of them!  If you send your child to school in -10 snow
 in shorts and a tanktop it isn't your fault!
 
 KB> To put it in a nutshell: Every parrot keeper believes to do its best
 KB> for   his birds - and no one should sentence about the other, no one
 KB> should   throw the first stone. We all make mistakes, especially I in
 KB> my Englisch. Pliece forgive me, ;-) and have a nice day!
Sorry but I don't like this message at all!  
Chris Roedocker
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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