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to: Rich
from: Geo
date: 2005-08-17 22:59:58
subject: Re: Vista features

From: "Geo" 

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Why even bother? Everyone knows the feds have required a backdoor, can't =
have a secure system unless the feds have a way to get in so what's the =
point to encrypting a partition if there is a back door? All it's going =
to do is prevent you from recovering it in case something goes wrong, =
goes wrong, goes wrong...

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:4302e08e{at}w3.nls.net...
     Encrypt any volume you want.

  Rich

    "Antti Kurenniemi"  wrote
in message =
news:4302d9ba$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Yea, I've always disliked encrypting data so widely. Encrypt only =
and=20
    exactly those parts (files) that you really really need to (and most =
people=20
    don't have anything that needs to be encrypted), but definately not =
the=20
    system itself as it makes disaster recovery pretty much impossible. =
This=20
    one's also worded in a funny way: "By default, the entire system =
partition=20
    in Windows Vista is encrypted to ensure that hackers cannot get at =
your data=20
    if your PC is stolen." - so, they can't get to my *system* =
partition, but if=20
    I have a separate partition for my data, that won't be encrypted by =
default?=20
    And that makes it difficult for hackers to get to my data, exactly =
how?

    Idjeets.


    Antti Kurenniemi

    "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:430285a3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    > Secure Startup. As with Windows Server 2003 SP1, Windows Vista =
will=20
    > startup
    > in a secure boot mode that prevents network-based attacks from =
infecting=20
    > the
    > system.
    >
    > Full Volume Encryption. By default, the entire system partition in =
Windows
    > Vista is encrypted to ensure that hackers cannot get at your data =
if your=20
    > PC
    > is stolen.
    >
    > Windows Rights Management Client. Windows Vista will include the =
latest
    > Windows RMS client.
    >
    > Integrated support for TPM hardware. Microsoft's so-called =
Palladium work
    > will ensure that Windows Vista installs on TPM-enabled hardware =
are as
    > secure as is possible. Security features in the OS will store =
encryption
    > keys that rely on the TPM chipset, ensuring that your data will be =
safe if
    > the hard drive is ever removed from the system during physical =
theft.
    >
    > ----------------------
    >
    > wow, just what I always wanted.. a secure boot mode so I can't =
interrupt=20
    > the
    > boot process to fix the system, an encrypted volume so even if my =
data=20
    > isn't
    > trashed I won't be able to get to it unless I can boot the system, =
DRM for
    > all those who want to limit my ability to work with information in =
a=20
    > format
    > that I prefer, and Palladium which all by itself is enough to put =
me off..
    >
    >=20


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Why even bother? Everyone knows the =
feds have=20
required a backdoor, can't have a secure system unless the feds have a = way to=20
get in so what's the point to encrypting a partition if there is a back = door?=20
All it's going to do is prevent you from recovering it in case something = goes=20
wrong, goes wrong, goes wrong...
 
Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4302e08e{at}w3.nls.net... Encrypt any volume you=20 want. Rich "Antti Kurenniemi" <NOantti{at}SPAManttikPLEASE.com=">mailto:NOantti{at}SPAManttikPLEASE.com">NOantti{at}SPAManttikPLEASE.com= >=20 wrote in message news:4302d9ba$1{at}w3.nls.net...Yea,=20 I've always disliked encrypting data so widely. Encrypt only and = exactly=20 those parts (files) that you really really need to (and most people=20 don't have anything that needs to be encrypted), but definately = not the=20 system itself as it makes disaster recovery pretty much = impossible. This=20 one's also worded in a funny way: "By default, the entire system = partition in Windows Vista is encrypted to ensure that hackers = cannot=20 get at your data if your PC is stolen." - so, they can't get to = my=20 *system* partition, but if I have a separate partition for my = data, that=20 won't be encrypted by default? And that makes it difficult for = hackers=20 to get to my data, exactly how?Idjeets.Antti=20 Kurenniemi"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> wrote in = message news:430285a3$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 Secure Startup. As with Windows Server 2003 SP1, Windows Vista will = >=20 startup> in a secure boot mode that prevents network-based = attacks=20 from infecting > the> system.>> Full = Volume=20 Encryption. By default, the entire system partition in = Windows> Vista=20 is encrypted to ensure that hackers cannot get at your data if your = >=20 PC> is stolen.>> Windows Rights Management = Client.=20 Windows Vista will include the latest> Windows RMS=20 client.>> Integrated support for TPM hardware. = Microsoft's=20 so-called Palladium work> will ensure that Windows Vista = installs on=20 TPM-enabled hardware are as> secure as is possible. Security = features=20 in the OS will store encryption> keys that rely on the TPM = chipset,=20 ensuring that your data will be safe if> the hard drive is = ever=20 removed from the system during physical theft.>>=20 ---------------------->> wow, just what I always = wanted.. a=20 secure boot mode so I can't interrupt > the> boot = process to=20 fix the system, an encrypted volume so even if my data >=20 isn't> trashed I won't be able to get to it unless I can boot = the=20 system, DRM for> all those who want to limit my ability to = work with=20 information in a > format> that I prefer, and = Palladium which=20 all by itself is enough to put me off..>>=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C5A37F.64E8CE40-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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