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echo: ham_tech
to: RUSS WUERTZ
from: IVY IVERSON
date: 1998-04-07 00:33:00
subject: [1/2] Repeaters

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-=> On 04-05-98  08:35, Russ Wuertz said to Ivy Iverson,<=-
-=>"About Repeaters...,"<=-
-=> On 03 Apr. 98   4:41 Ivy Iverson wrote to Russ Wuertz...
-=> On 04-03-98  09:25, Russ Wuertz said to Ivy Iverson,<=-
-=>"About 49Mhz to 6m......,"<=-
 
 RW> Hello Ivy,
 
Hi again, Russ;
 
[Big snip to save bandwidth]
 
 RW> Yes sir I understand your message.  I keyed up on that frequency here
 RW> locally and I saw the offset of 600kHz appear.
 
 RW> I recieved some morse code signal instantly when I keyed up.  Is that
 RW> how we know a repeater is there and up and running so I can sent the
 RW> subauditable tone?   
 
That is the repeater identifying itself with it's callsign, (actually the
callsign of the Ham that is responsible for it).  It will ID itself when
you first "wake it up" by activating it's receiver, then every few minutes,
(less than 10 minutes, usually about 9 minutes), while people are using it,
then once more after the users finish talking.  They have to follow the
same rules that "live" Hams do as far as identifying themselves.  The ID
can be either in CW or voice, (some use both at different times).  A CW ID
is the ONLY mode that can be legally used on ALL modes that Hams are
authorized to use.  There are a FEW small, closed, (not open to most Hams),
that have no IDers, but are ID'd by whoever is talking on it.  An example
of this rare one would be: "This is W9ABC on K9DEF repeater."  I doubt if
you will ever hear one of these.
 
 RW> I would have to know the person who owns the repeater and activate
 RW> it,  and the general masses who recieve it would have to activate it
 RW> on their side to reply.
 
If, when you say, "general masses," you mean other Hams who have a license
which allows them to operate on that frequency, then yes, that is EXACTLY
how it works!
 
 RW> I can invision clubs getting together and linking whole regions
 RW> together with a chain of these, so we might make contact some day.
 RW> The technology is and desire is out there.
 
And so are the systems.  There are a number of repeaters around the country
that are connected together, so that everything that goes in one of them is
retransmitted by the others.  Such repeaters are said to be linked.  We
have a repeater on the 440 MHz band in this area that can be linked to
either of the local 2 Meter machines, though most of the time is is not
connected to either one.  There is another repeater in a nearby town that
is linked to a different repeater in a different area. In some parts of the
country, particularly in the SouthWestern U.S., there are "chains" of
repeaters linked in such a way that you can talk several hundred miles
using nothing more than a little handheld radio, and calling into the
nearest of the machines anywhere in the system!
[Snip]
 
 RW> I just had a local resident come to my door saying he had an advanced
 RW> license.  I looked him up in the callbook data base,
 
Which one?  Did you logon to QRZ.COM or one of the other online bases,
or did you look him up on a CD-ROM or a paper callbook?
 
 RW> and his call letters were not there.  I almost let him in my home to
 RW> look over and tune my equipment and show me things as he wanted that
 RW> day.
 
It is POSSIBLE that he had been assigned the call he gave you after your
edition of the callbook was published, if that is what you checked.  A
better way would have been to ask to see his Ham license!  Since a Ham has
to have their license in their posession when they are on the air, and most
Hams carry it in their wallet, it would be a safe bet that if you asked to
see it and he was unable or unwilling to show it, then he was probably an
imposter, there for less than honorable reasons, and the police should be
called.
 
 RW> I don't do business with ARRL because I have heard bad things about
 RW> them.
 
I do not wish to get into a discussion of whether the ARRL is good or bad,
however I will say that there are a LOT of Hams that belong.  The ARRL does
fight for the Hams in many ways, including trying to save our precious
frequency allocations from commercial interests, getting the international
broadcasters off of our 40M band and many other things. There are a FEW
Hams, however, that carry a grudge against them for some reason or another.
 
 RW> I lived in Connecticut most of my life, and a Fire department
 RW> Leutenant called their RELAY (BED A BUG).   He was also working as a
 RW> paramedic and had a 10 code for BUG UP THE BUTT.
 
Thier RELAY?  Are you referring to the ARRL repeater?  If they are getting
any interference from W1AW, (the ARRL station), they should contact ARRL
HQ there in Newington and see what can be done to correct the problem!
 
 RW> I realize you are calling it something like a moth caught between
 RW> relay contacts, and try to make it work.
 
Huh?  I don't understand what you are trying to say here.
...
 
 RW> ...   I really do
 RW> not like the way people are being victomized via stuffing a 
 RW> microphone down their throat as soon as they open up their mouth.
 
What are you referring to here?  I don't know of anyone "stuffing a
microphone down (anyone's) throat"!  There are MANY different modes of
communication available to Hams, some of which do NOT require the use of a
microphone!  Packet and RTTY come immediately to mind.  Then there's the
one that scares off a lot of prospective Hams: Morse Code.
 
 RW> I see how old these "Gentlemen" are on 2 meters.  Age is not always an
 RW> indication of maturity.
 
This is unfortunately true, not only in Ham radio, but in life also.
 
73 DE KB9QPM
 
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