Ma> re - she signed herself out - it's hard to watch someone you love 
 Ma> choose death.  I've had four people I loved very much go that route.
 Ma> I currently have a couple of neighbors who aren't really bad people, 
 Ma> just bound and determined to keep drinking and/or drugging.  It's sad 
 Ma> to watch.  But in Al-Anon (I'm also in that) I learned the that I am 
 Ma> also powerless over alcohol (and other substances) when they are in 
 Ma> other bodies - not just in my own.  It was such a relief when someone 
 Ma> taught me about the three c's - I didn't Cause it, I can't Control it,
 Ma> and I can't Cure it.  Now I've been able to set other people in my
 Ma> life free to make their own choices and create their own lives.  Doing
 Ma> this  sets ME free to work on what I have to do to stay sober and clean
 Ma> today.
 
 About my friend that signed herself out...I heard from her a day or so
 ago and she is in the program, trying to work the steps. She has found
 herself a temp-sponser and is trying...She signed herself out of a detox
 because of money problems...We talk every now and then and she has put
 me on her list of people to call. I sincerely hope things work out for
 her.
     
 Ma> I'm very curious about why you work with AA if you aren't IN AA.  If 
 Ma> you would like to tell me in net-mail, since I believe we are on the
 Ma> 12 steps echo and I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be limitted to the
 Ma> discussion of the 12 steps.
 Do you have an e-mail address? We are on the recovery echo, I believe, but
 I have no idea if we could discuss this here. It does deal with AA but as
 you say, it may be limited to discussion of the 12 steps.
 Marie
 starwitch1@juno.com
... Concern for others brings unexpected rewards.
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